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                    <text>WALTER AND ANNA (Liese) CARLSON
Many Europeans who later became Americans were a surprise to their relatives. John
Erricson Carlson's mother lived all her life 45 miles from Stockholm, Sweden, without
ever having visited that city. Despite her example of staying put, John became a
traveler to distant places. Being subject to the Swedish Army, John could not leave until
he was 21. Then he crossed the ocean and came to Kansas where he stayed until he
learned English by reading Swedish and English Bibles. Once he felt competent to use
English, he moved on to Denver where he worked at a number of jobs. First he worked
for the city digging sewer trenches, narrowly avoiding tragedy, when a wall of earth
collapsed on him. Next he worked in the machine shop of the D. &amp; R.G.W. railroad.
Workers were expected to be on time. The gate was locked at 8:00 and latecomers
were not allowed to enter for an hour. Pay was $1.50 per day. Later John was hired as
a machinist's helper at the Tramway Co., one of the streetcar companies in Denver
where he worked at least 8 years. Labor unions were just gaining some influence in
those days. One union John told his children about was the Industrial Workers of the
World, the I.W.W. which opponents claimed meant "I won't work."
The Carlson's son John Walter was born in Denver March 5, 1896. "The terrace
(apartment) where I was born is probably gone now," Walter says, "but it was located
about where the Valley Highway (Interstate 25) crosses South Santa Fe in Denver. This
was close to the Platte River across from a glass factory. We used to cross the river on
a foot bridge."
"When I was 5 or 6 Dad decided he wanted to farm. He bought a place on the Divide
between Denver and Colorado Springs about 45 miles southeast of Denver near
Elizabeth, Colorado. I started to school there, but we didn't stay long. We moved back
to Denver, settling out west near Sheridan and Alameda. At that time there was a lot of
open country around Denver, orchards, grain fields and dairies. For a while I herded
cows for 50 cents a week. I went to Barnum school till 4th grade. Even then Denver had
nice public parks and Elitch Gardens was open. It was fun to go ice skating and to ride
the streetcars."
In 1906 when young John was 10, his father heard about land opening for settlement in
southwest Colorado. He bought a place near Tiffany and Vallejo (later called Allison)
and moved the family. The trip took 4 days by train. The family loaded their possessions
in 5 boxcars. This included 2 dogs, 2 horses, 2 cows and some chickens plus a rake
and a mowing machine. Walter's mother later said, "We packed everything but the milk
stool and it came a week later."
"It was pretty hard," Walter recalls. "There wasn't a bridge, a fence or a house in sight
except a house for the railroad section foreman. Otherwise it was just sagebrush. We
lived under a pinon tree, not even in a tent, just under a tree until we built one room. In
the fall Dad built a 12x12' house. The Shanks were already here. Mrs. Newcombe had a
small store built of cedar posts. I can still remember the candy in fruit jars. Later Mr.
Thomas built a store and blacksmith shop. Allison was named Vallejo by the railroad

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until a surveyor named Allison Stauffer came through promoting a new irrigation
system. Then the residents decided to change the name."
"In the fall the men around Tiffany decided to build a school because the place was
growing fast. P.M. Engler, Parris Engler, Sylvia Pargin, Una and John Rencher and
Inez Rowse were some of my classmates . "
"There was some rivalry between the two towns. There was a Tiffany gang and an
Allison Gang. It wasn't a serious thing, but it was noticeable."
"Once we went to chivaree a young couple who had just been married. He wouldn't
come out of the house so we smoked him out. We stuffed gunny sacks in the chimney
until he had to come out. It was the custom for the person being chivareed to treat the
crowd. We took him to the store where we each got candy or some small item. The
whole treat cost him 55 cents."
A new family bought a farm adjacent to the Carlsons in 1916. The Liesa's had a
daughter named Anna and it wasn't long before Walter noticed her.
Anna Gesine Liese was born July 30,1895 at Sioux city, Iowa. Her parents were
Hermann J. Liese born in Hamburg, Germany and Ottilie Therese Johanna Glander,
born in Straulandsen, Germany in 1866. Hermann came to America in 1877. Ottilie
didn't arrive until 1885 when she was 19. For a while she worked as a housemaid in
New York City for 50 cents a week. After they were married the Liesa's lived in many
places across the country. After Anna was born in Iowa, they lived in Minnesota,
Oregon, Washington and finally arrived in Farmington, N.M.
"What a dusty place," my father thought. A realtor there told him he might like Durango
better." Hermann bought a farm in the Animas valley north of town. Anna got a job as
waitress and maid at the Southern Hotel across the street from the depot. To get to
work, Anna walked to Animas City, then caught the street car to the depot. A few
months later Hermann decided he would like the Tiffany area better so he traded farms
with a family there.
Shortly after the Lieses arrived one of the neighbors played cupid by inviting both Walter
and Anna to supper one evening. After supper Walter boldly said, "Are you ready to go
home, Miss Liese?" Six months later Walter and Anna were married. Walter's father had
a new Model T Ford, which they drove to Ignacio. Unable to find a minister in Ignacio,
they went on to Bayfield where they were married on July 25, 1917.
The Model T's were hard to crank, but good in the mud. Tires didn't last long on the
country roads. When Walter went to Pagosa on business once it required 5 hours to go
and 5 to return. He went through Bayfield, since there was no road up the Piedra Valley.
Along some stretches of the road the dust was 10" deep because of the constant
pounding from the lumber wagons.
Walter was drafted in 1918, sent to Ft. Logan, then to Nogales, Arizona, and San
Antonio. He was scheduled to be shipped to France when the armistice was signed. His
total time in the army was 9 months.
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until a surveyor named Allison Stauffer came through promoting a new irrigation
system. Then the residents decided to change the name."
"In the fall the men around Tiffany decided to build a school because the place was
growing fast. P.M. Engler, Parris Engler, Sylvia Pargin, Una and John Rencher and
Inez Rowse were some of my classmates . "
"There was some rivalry between the two towns. There was a Tiffany gang and an
Allison Gang. It wasn't a serious thing, but it was noticeable."
"Once we went to chivaree a young couple who had just been married. He wouldn't
come out of the house so we smoked him out. We stuffed gunny sacks in the chimney
until he had to come out. It was the custom for the person being chivareed to treat the
crowd. We took him to the store where we each got candy or some small item. The
whole treat cost him 55 cents."
A new family bought a farm adjacent to the Carlsons in 1916. The Liesa's had a
daughter named Anna and it wasn't long before Walter noticed her.
Anna Gesine Liese was born July 30,1895 at Sioux city, Iowa. Her parents were
Hermann J. Liese born in Hamburg, Germany and Ottilie Therese Johanna Glander,
born in Straulandsen, Germany in 1866. Hermann came to America in 1877. Ottilie
didn't arrive until 1885 when she was 19. For a while she worked as a housemaid in
New York City for 50 cents a week. After they were married the Liesa's lived in many
places across the country. After Anna was born in Iowa, they lived in Minnesota,
Oregon, Washington and finally arrived in Farmington, N.M.
"What a dusty place," my father thought. A realtor there told him he might like Durango
better." Hermann bought a farm in the Animas valley north of town. Anna got a job as
waitress and maid at the Southern Hotel across the street from the depot. To get to
work, Anna walked to Animas City, then caught the street car to the depot. A few
months later Hermann decided he would like the Tiffany area better so he traded farms
with a family there.
Shortly after the Lieses arrived one of the neighbors played cupid by inviting both Walter
and Anna to supper one evening. After supper Walter boldly said, "Are you ready to go
home, Miss Liese?" Six months later Walter and Anna were married. Walter's father had
a new Model T Ford, which they drove to Ignacio. Unable to find a minister in Ignacio,
they went on to Bayfield where they were married on July 25, 1917.
The Model T's were hard to crank, but good in the mud. Tires didn't last long on the
country roads. When Walter went to Pagosa on business once it required 5 hours to go
and 5 to return. He went through Bayfield, since there was no road up the Piedra Valley.
Along some stretches of the road the dust was 10" deep because of the constant
pounding from the lumber wagons.
Walter was drafted in 1918, sent to Ft. Logan, then to Nogales, Arizona, and San
Antonio. He was scheduled to be shipped to France when the armistice was signed. His
total time in the army was 9 months.
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�Walter was a farmer, but worked away from home a lot, too. He was a ditch rider, had 2
thrashing machines for contract thrashing and operated a grain cleaning machine which
could also grind the feed. This machine was powered by a tractor until REA brought in
electricity. Walter was foreman on a road crew, helped sign up people for REA and
secured right-of-way for the lines. When Walter became ill in 1924 the Doctors at the
Veterans hospital ordered him to quit working. He didn't obey, but he did quit farming,
moved to Ignacio and started a business. He operated Ignacio Motors, handling
Massey-Farmington farm equipment until 1969.
The Carlson 's had five children. Irene Augusta died in the flu epidemic at the age of 6
months in 1918. Emanuel farms the home place at Tiffany. John lives in Albuquerque.
Anna May Carden lives in Ignacio and Emma Shock lives near Tiffany.
"In the old days," the Carlsons say, "People had to depend on one another and help
one another to survive. In the summer people would stagger the butchering and pass
around the meat they could not use before it would spoil. People traded fruit and
vegetables with their neighbors who had different varieties. No one had to harvest
alone. People always helped one another. In winter the men cut ice together until all the
ice houses were full. Anna was a midwife for years. She delivered babies of all ethnic
groups. Walter served as undertaker when necessary. That's the way it was. We had to
depend on one another and take care of one another.
On July 25, 1977, the Carlson's will have been married 60 years. We wish to
congratulate them on this anniversary and thank them for the part they contributed in
building this community.
July, 1977 -- SHELBY SMITH

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Ulysses Grant McJunkin born November 4, 1881 - died February 5, in El Paso, Texas.
Funeral services were Thursday, February 10, at the Ignacio Presbyterian Church with
the Rev. Don Kratz officiating. Burial was in the Ignacio Cemetery:
Jake, as he was better known from the time he was a small boy, spent his 95 years in
many areas and in many occupations. Recalling when he wa~ in first grade in school in
Saguache, he told how the McJunkin family came across the plains in a covered
wagon. He admitted to being scared at night when he heard the coyotes.
He had a lifelong interest in music and played the violin and guitar. He said he
remembered his mother saying, "Jake, I wish you would stop plunking away on that
guitar, you are about to drive ne crazy." In his early years around this area he played
his fiddle at the county dances and his wife, Ruby, corded on the Piano. He was still
playing for his own entertainment in his 80s. When Chrestino Casias, another old time
musician, came to see him, the two played for hours at a time.
As a young man, before he was out of his teens, he freighted across the Navajo
reservation, helped survey for a railroad in Arizona and was in the Silverton -Ouray area
when the mining days were at their height. An older brother, Elton, freighted supplies
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From the Ignacio Chieftain for July 19, 1966 - Mr. McJunkin recalled he married Ruby
Bryan, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. G.W. (George Washington) Bryan at the Bryan home
which was across from the present Don Gosney ranch. The Bryans and McJunkins
were around before there were any houses in what is now down town Ignacio.
In 1909 the Bryan family store was located on the south side of the depot. At a later
date Mr. Bryan built his store down town, (corner of Pioneer and Goddard). Mr. Bryan
also built many of the present day homes in Ignacio.
The McJunkins lived in Durango following their marriage. Mr. McJunkin thought it was
probably July 4, 1909 that they and the Len Andersons came out from Durango on the
train for the sale of some newly surveyed lots in Ignacio. The land was just being thrown
open for settlement.
On that 4th of July a 30 or 40 piece band from Pagosa had been engaged to play for
the celebration. There were eats and speeches before the sale was to begin. However,
around noon there was lightning, rain and hail. It got so cold it turned to snow. As the
snow piled up, the people took off and headed for their homes and not a lot was sold.
Some four years later the McJunkins did move to Ignacio. Mr. McJunkin ran sheep, then
started a second hand store, later adding groceries and dry goods. After a number of
years they sold the store to Harold Phillips .

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�The McJunkins in later years lived in the Bryan family home on Browning where Ed
Mouser now lives. They had three sons George, Grant, and Harry.
After his wife's death, death Mr. McJunkin continued to live here during the summers in
the house just north of his former home. In the winter he stays with his son, Harry, in El
Paso or with his brother, Jim, at his trading post near Winslow, Arizona.
In his later years he has painted a good many pictures, mostly from memory of Navajo
land and early day scenes. He hangs these pictures on the walls of his home for his
own pleasure. He did not like winter scenes, so he seldom painted bare trees, ice, or
snow.
February, 1977 - Shelby Smith

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                    <text>Voices of Ignacio
Interviewee: Linda Campbell
Interviewer: Liz Wheelock
Date: May 19, 2016

My name is Liz Wheelock and I am conducting an interview for the Ignacio oral
history project entitled Voices of Ignacio, at the Ignacio Community Library on
Thursday, May 19, 2016. I have with me a local member of the community and
she has graciously permitted me to interview her. Please tell me your name, your
birthdate, and how you came to be in Ignacio.
Campbell: I am Linda Campbell, my birthdate is 3/29/42, and I moved to
Ignacio in 1978. How we came here? I was born and raised in
Montrose, Colorado. Grew up on a sheep ranch, my dad was a
sheep rancher in Montrose and our ranch was in Cimarron,
Colorado. I grew up living in the summer up in our ranch in Cimarron
which was twenty-one miles from Montrose and then living in
Montrose during the winter months. So would ride the school bus
when we got to school age we’d ride the school bus in the fall until
we moved down after hunting season is usually when my folks
moved back to Montrose. Went through all the grades of school.
Dropped out of kindergarten because I couldn’t stand the naps.
(laughs) Outside of that, went straight through. Went to Western
State College when I graduated from high school. Did my student
teaching in Montrose at the junior high there which was really great
because all of the teachers that I’d had when I was in junior high
and I was their peer. It was probably one of the most fun times of
teaching in my career. Well, no, not the most, but it was a great
experience. Then my friend that was teaching there at the time in
Montrose had graduated, she and her roommate had graduated
from CSU and they had worked at Lake Tahoe the summer before
and so she talked me into going out to Lake Tahoe.
Wheelock: How old were you at this time?
Campbell: Just graduated from college so twenty-two. She had her job at Lake
Tahoe at Harrah’s club because she had worked there the summer
before but we had no teaching jobs so we just thought, we’re
going to wing it. (laughs) So we went all the way to California and I
had a little black Volkswagen. She said when we move to California
what you have to do is get a flower for your antenna because the
parking lot at Harrah’s club at Lake Tahoe is bigger than the whole
town of Montrose. There’s more cars than the whole town of
Montrose. So I got a columbine and I had my little black
Volkswagen and she had a Camaro, I can’t remember what kind of
flower she had. So we drove to Lake Tahoe without any jobs, well
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Interviewer: Liz Wheelock
Date: May 19, 2016
she had a job, I didn’t have any jobs, and had not a worry in the
world. We thought we could always sell pencils on the corner if we
had to. We could do it. The first night I got there, because basically I
have never drank in my life and Western had a three-two bar,
which was the Rambling Inn and I used to go out there but I never
ever drank, and so when I first walked into Harrah’s club it was so far
beyond what I ever imagined. People were gambling people were
drinking, people were…you know and I thought, Oh my God! What
did I get myself into? So then the next day, because she was the
keno writer, Barb, and the next day I went to apply for a job and
they had it was the back of the parking lot and there was just like a
window back there and a whole huge line where people would just
walk up and so you could tell…
Wheelock: To apply?
Campbell: Yeah, to apply because in the summer they hired 3,000 people and
most of them were just graduated from college or first year teachers
or for summer jobs. That was my first opportunity to apply for a job
so as I was standing in this line you could hear what they were
saying to two and three people in front of you and I remember the
one person was a guy and they said, he had acne pretty bad I
guess, and they said, “You cannot work at the front, we’ll have to
put you somewhere in the back.” And then there was a lady a
couple in front of my and they said, “Go lose ten pounds and then
come back.” And I thought, “Oh shit!” I didn’t know it was going to
be this hard. So then I get up there and they said, “Dealer school.”
So I went to blackjack dealing school. You went for five days but in
the mean time before it started we drove down to Sacramento
where Barb’s roommate all through college lived to apply for jobs in
the San Juan school district in Carmicle, California which is a suburb
of Sacramento. So we got our teaching jobs right off. I was at La
Sierra high school and she was at San Juan high school. At that time
San Juan school district was the second largest in the state of
California so there were ten high schools with 2,000 kids in each. It
was big.
Wheelock: It was high school that you got a job.
Campbell: I got a job teaching P.E in California. We got an apartment right
away. Everything just like…not a worry in the world, right? (laughs)
Life just falls into place. We taught at different schools and then I
kept my job at…oh and then we went back down to Lake Tahoe
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Interviewer: Liz Wheelock
Date: May 19, 2016
for work during the summer dealing. Dealing school. That was pretty
much an experience for me. You definitely know how to count to
twenty-one in every way you can possibly do it. You went to school
for five days. Three days you were in a class learning how to do it
and then the fourth day you went out and just observed a dealer
on the floor and then the fifth day you were that dealer and
another person was with you and then after that…
Wheelock: You were on your own?
Campbell: You were on your own. It was a great experience then what took us
down to Sacramento in between and got our teaching jobs.
Worked all summer at Lake Tahoe as a blackjack dealer and then
during the school year when school started I still worked at Tahoe.
I’d drive up on weekends to Lake Tahoe from Sacramento.
Wheelock: How long was the drive?
Campbell: It was probably ninety miles or something. I had a little black
Volkswagen and I would only fill it with gas once a week. Drove to
school every day and then go to Tahoe and back and it would go
and it cost me like five dollars or something for gas. I think gas was
pretty…
Wheelock: Twenty-eight cents.
Campbell: Twenty-eight, twenty-nine cents. And you got blue chip stamps and
(laughs) all of that stuff. Then after that Ben, my husband-to-be, he
had gotten back from the Olympic games because the Tokyo
Olympics in ’64 and so he was teaching, so this was in 1965 I guess,
and so he was teaching in the San Juan school district and he was
teaching adaptive P.E. at that time. So he went to all of the
different high schools. He was giving a class for teachers, mainly for
P.E. teachers to Judo, to teach them how to instruct Judo because
he wanted it in the curriculum as an activity, a P.E. activity in the
district. My roommate, who was a Home Ec. Major, she said, “Let’s
take that class. Find out if he’ll let me go because I’m home ec. So
we can go back to Montrose and flip people.” Because nobody
had ever taken Judo in Montrose. I ask him and he said, “Yeah,
that would be fine.” Then we took the class. First thing he did was
totally insult me like he said, “Okay, if you’re as big as Linda you’ll
take a size five Judo gi.” I looked and I said, “What?” And he said, “I
mean as tall!” So one thing after another and then he had a friend
there and so they decided they wanted to ask Barb and me out so
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Interviewer: Liz Wheelock
Date: May 19, 2016
they flipped a coin to see which one. (laughs) Anyway, time went
on and Ben and I got together and dated for three months and he
had Judo camps up in Squaw Valley, California that summer and
we dated three months and got married. We’re still married today
so that’s pretty amazing.
Wheelock: You knew right away.
Campbell: Yeah, I guess.
Wheelock: Now did you still have your teaching job after this?
Campbell: Oh yeah. I was teaching at La Sierra high school. Taught for four
years, I think it was, there and then I got pregnant with Colin our son
and had him out in California. When ben and I first got married he
had the Judo club and it was on Jackson road in Sacramento so
we had a trailer that we lived in right behind the judo club and then
I’d drive to work. In fact, we’d drive together and then he’d pick
me up or whatever after school. We went to different schools.
Wheelock: So did you have a big wedding?
Campbell: Oh no, we got married at Park’s Wedding Chapel in Reno Nevada
and we weren’t even sure it was legal. (laughs)
Wheelock: Did your parents come? How did your parents take this?
Campbell: We were at Judo camp up at Lake Tahoe that summer in august, I
think. We started dating, I guess it must have been about may or
something and one day he had me go up to camp with them to
take care of all the records and stuff of all the people that enrolled
into the camp and worked and so and then one day he just said,
“Go call your dad and tell him we’re getting married.” I said,
“What?” Very romantic.
Wheelock: It did it for you.
Campbell: It did it for me. So basically, I mean, I was totally fine not having a
wedding because the summer before my sister had gotten married
and all I heard all summer long was wedding plans, wedding plans,
wedding plans just for…and then my best friend at that time got
married that fall when I was, well it was still when I was still in college,
and all I heard all fall was wedding plans, wedding plans, and I
thought, “Oh I never want to go through that!” So I didn’t. Then we
decided we’d come back to Colorado and we came back to
Colorado and I got a job teaching GED through the Win program in
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Date: May 19, 2016
Montrose. Ben had a hard time finding a job there in Montrose
because, I don’t know, he wasn’t…So he decided he was going to
go back to California and get a teaching job. He was there maybe
six months or something then he went back and I stayed and I had
Shannon, because Colin and Shannon are just a year apart in age.
Shannon was born in Montrose and Colin was born in Sacramento.
Then, after the end of the school year, Ben had gotten a job
teaching in Allgrove, California. I finished teaching that year in
Montrose the GED program and then went to…back to California.
Wheelock: With two little ones.
Campbell: With two little ones. They were like twins all the time. Then we
bought a place, I said, “Well I want to live on Sheldon road in
Allgrove if I move back.” So he found…
Wheelock: Why?
Campbell: Because it was a horsey place and I’ve always had horses, I’ve
always ridden horses and had horses, you know a ranch and I just
wanted and I don’t know it was like out in the country. At that time,
it was zoned A2 it was…It could only be divided into two acres was
the smallest acreage you could buy. A lot of big dairies and horse
ranches and stuff so that’s where we lived for the next, I think, ten
years. I think it was…the kids, they were second and third grade
when we moved back here and Ben just decided it was right after
proposition thirteen went through and passed California and they
were letting - proposition thirteen was cutting back on property tax
because property tax and stuff were so high and then what
happened was the crime rate went way up because there were so
many drugs and whatever in California it got…and we decided…
Wheelock: Now did you work then, during that time also?
Campbell: Yeah, at Allgrove High school.
Wheelock: So you went back there again. P.E.?
Campbell: Yeah. So I taught P.E. then GED and then back to P.E. and then one
day he said, “We need to get out of here while the kids are little
because you can’t take kids away from California when they get in
high school. It’s not fair to them. So if you’re going to move you got
to move while they’re young enough.” So I said, “Okay. You go find
a place and I will take care.” Because we had a ranch there and
we had raised horses, raised quarter horses so we rode all the time
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Date: May 19, 2016
and did all of this. Ben was working at the school district and then
he was working for the sheriff’s office at night and then he got back
into doing jewelry then so he was working like three jobs.
Wheelock: What about his judo?
Campbell: He still coached the armed forces team and stuff when we were in
Allgrove. It just kind of phased out of Judo, you know. It had just
been a part of his life for so long that and that’s when he really got
back into doing jewelry. I said, “You just go and find a place.” So he
was headed to Codey, Wyoming and I said, “Well at least just look
at Durango.” Because it would be just right across the mountain
from my folks and my family and so we’d be close enough where I
could go and, you know. He went to Santa Fe, no he went to
intertribal, Gallup intertribal, and then there was two weeks in
between it and Santa Fe Indian market and he had a trailer with his
shop set up in this trailer and he met Jimmy Keen, that lived in
Ignacio and who was a jeweler at intertribal and he said, “Do you
want to just come up and stay in that area for a while and look
around between it and Santa Fe Indian market instead of going,
you know. So Ben did. He got to Ignacio and the tribe, when they
found out he was there, they wanted him to run Sky Ute Downs
horse center and so Ben said, “Well I’m in Ignacio, Colorado.” And I
said, “Where in the world is Ignacio?” I had never heard of it and I’d
lived in Colorado all my life. I said, “Okay.” This is in 1977, when he
came back. So then Colin came back with him later…
Wheelock: In third grade.
Yeah he was in third grade and Shannon stayed with me because I
was going to stay to sell our house and our place in California and
do that and I think it was, it was in the fall because school had
already started in California or here in Colorado when they came
back. Ben took Colin over to Jeff Medina was the principal at the
elementary school and he took them in there and it was kind of
later in the day and so Jeff took Colin into Mrs. Keller’s class. Hellen
Keller. Killer Keller. (laughs) Colin was always such a bright student.
He was always way ahead of even though they started school they
were a year younger than all of their classmates here because they
started when they were four in California because their birthdays
were October and the cut off was when we’re here the cut off was
in September. That first six months, Colin and Ben lived in the
camper in the back of a pickup, you know. They set it off down at
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Date: May 19, 2016
Sky Ute Downs. Shannon and I came back out here on Thanksgiving
that year because I was working in California. Colin just hated
school and was having such a difficult time because every time he
would do something the teachers would rip it up even though like
on math he would just write the answers down because he just
knew how to do it and didn’t want to go through the whole process
of writing the whole problem down. (laughs) She would rip it up in
front of the class. It was not a pleasant time for him. So when I came
during thanksgiving I went to school and Jeff Medina, I said, “I want
to have a meeting. He hates school and he’s always loved school.”
So he had a meeting with me and Ellen Fromm and Helen Keller
and Jeff Medina and Colin and I were there.
Wheelock: Why was Ellen there?
Campbell: Because she was the other third grade teacher. So he was going to
move Colin into Ellen’s class, out of Keller’s class. The meeting was a
little bit different. Hellen Keller, I said, “I can understand how kids are
terrified of you.” She was very structured and big and tall. I said,
“You scare me and I don’t even scare very easily. I can imagine
what you did my little kid.” Jeff Medina told Colin, he said, “I’m
going to put you in Mrs. Fromm’s class but that’s the only place I
can move you. If you don’t work out there, there isn’t any place
else to move you.” So then I was like, oh shoot. I came back during
spring break and I went to parent teacher conference, Shannon
and I came back out during spring break. I remember going into
Mrs. Fromm’s room and going, “Oh, no.” Because Colin hadn’t
complained anymore at all because, let me skip back, when Ben
went to pick Colin up that first day, Mrs. Keller had given him a test
and Jeff Medina had told her, “Just let him sit and get used to
things, don’t be pushing work on him to start with.” So when Ben
came in to pick him up she said, “He needs to be moved back to
the first grade. All California kids are behind Colorado kids.” Ben
said, “I think she had no idea who she was talking to.” Thinking that
Ben was probably…I mean who knows what. (laughs) He said, “Well
don’t you think it would be more fair to you and to the student, to
Colin, to observe him for a while before you come to a decision like
that?” Of course, that didn’t go over real well with her. She already
had her mind made up. So then she picked on him the whole time.
It was bad. I think that’s one thing that people don’t realize that if
parents don’t stand up for your kids when, you know, somethings
going on and you know that they were good students and did
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Date: May 19, 2016
really well and then all of a sudden hated school, you know there’s
something. So when I came back spring break and I had to go to
parent teacher conference with Mrs. Fromm and she said, “Well, all
I can say is he needs to be moved up a grade, not back a grade.
He is amazing.” After that I loved Mrs. Fromm from then on just this
difference and I thought, just think of how many kids are ruined.
Where they hate school from then on if parents don’t take the
initiative to check out and see why they don’t like it because there
are personality conflicts and there are personality conflicts with
teachers and students. Whether you believe it or not, there are.
Then Shannon and I came back after the end of the school year
and we lived down at Sky Ute Downs, rented a trailer from Becky
and Joe Sparks down there and Ben ran Sky Ute downs. We had
bought fifty acres and then we’re building up on 334. I was in
painting Ben’s office one day at Sky Ute and the Superintendent
who was Harrig, I can’t remember what his first name was, he was
the Superintendent of schools and I guess he heard that I had a
teaching degree and so he said, when I was down there painting
and he came in one day and he said, “I think I have a job for you.”
And I said, “Well I don’t know that I want a job.” (laughs) So I
thought, eh. (??29.25) So I applied and got the title math job at the
high school and I started teaching at the high school. I taught there
for three years, I think, up at the high school and then moved down
to the elementary school.
Wheelock: Why?
Campbell: Because they dropped it at the high school, the title program I
think, and they needed somebody down at the elementary. I had
never taught at elementary because I was always at high school in
California and then at Dals and stuff. That year, oh those cute little
kids, how they hug on you and, you know, I got everything! My
immune system really was built up after that. I never got sick
anymore. (laughs) After all those.
Wheelock: Oh I thought you were just going to say that you got everything just
from the love.
Campbell: Yeah, you did. So then taught there and then taught both at the
elementary and the intermediate, went back and forth for twentythree years I worked in the school district. In the meantime, Ben was
still doing his jewelry, he ran Sky Ute Downs for probably five years,
maybe. Then we started the 4-H horse, 4-H club. Ben started it
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Date: May 19, 2016
before I got out here and then I took it over and Genie Whiteman
and I did it, it was called Sky High 4-H club and it was a horse club.
Went to state fair, had all of these kids that we taught them riding
and we did the horse activities and then the next year we started
another club that was called Wind Riders. Our club won state fair,
first time ever in La Plata county that our 4-H had won. There was
five on the team and there’s Colin and Shannon, and then Mark
and Stacy Lawler and Mike Lawler was CEO of Community Hospital
at that time, and then he had moved to Mercy and became the
CEO of Mercy Hospital and then Chad Midcalf, Midcalf and the
Karen and Chuck, she was with Blue Cross Blue Shield and then she
became the, when Mike moved to Mercy from Community Hospital
in Durango, he had her come and be the director of the foundation
which she is still to this day. So it’s those five kids that won the state
championship and nobody has ever matched it since or before so
we still have our plaque. We went to horse shows after horse shows
after horse shows. Our whole family rode so that was good. Then we
got into politics by accident.
Wheelock: How did that happen?
Campbell: By accident and then we bought the Lee place, Russel Lee place
that was right…bordered our place. It expanded our place to 115
acres.
Wheelock: Now did you design your house that your now in?
Campbell: Oh yes, we did. When we built our house, Melvin Haga, Melvin was
the contractor and it was when, because we moved into our house
in 1979 and we had seen these log homes in California, they were
lodge pole pines from Montana, and Ben just always wanted a log.
Our house, we were at Sky Ute Downs because we were down
there all the time with the horses and Melvin Haega and June
Haega and their whole family, Anita May, who teaches down here
in Ignacio. He was the contractor and we were sitting in the
bleachers and Ben said, “We want to build this house.” He wrote all
what the cost would be, everything, on a paper towel. (laughs)
Ignacio…It was so amazing. I remember when we were building
because we were living in the trailer down at Sky Ute Downs and
when Ben would go up to check on to see how they were doing
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Wheelock: Was there anything up there at all?
Campbell: Not on that part of the building because we bought, Ross Raegan’s
place but the only thing was the old barn by Wes Raegan’s was the
only structure that was on the place. We decided to build our
house right at the edge of our land where it wasn’t irrigated. So we
had to build a road in from the county road and stuff. Melvin
Haega was amazing. I don’t know if he hadn’t done very many log
homes before but he said, “There is not any two square corners.” He
had no idea of all of the fitting that you would have to do. So Ben
went up there, I know, I mean he would go and check on them all
the time and it was getting later in the fall and they would be all
playing cards during their lunch time and Ben said, “Come on!
When are we going to get this house?” And Melvin said, “I thought
you moved back here to slow down.” And Ben said to Melvin,
“Yeah, but not to stop.” (laughs) Our whole life here Melvin was
always, because he went, kept his contract right to the penny that
he had written down on the paper towel. I think I still have it
somewhere. It was just thinking, wow, it’s too bad things aren’t like
that today. Then we put our big barn, a Quonset Hut that was 300
feet long and 75 feet wide and they had to bring it in with cranes
and they had to do half at a time all the time because they tried
bolting it all together and then lifting it up but because it weighed
so much. All of the people around here, the ranchers and stuff
would say, “in the first big snow storm that comes, that buildings
going to collapse.” It was going to totally collapse or the first big
wind storm it just…well it’s still there, the snow doesn’t even stay on
it, it just slides off. Sounds like an avalanche when you’re inside
when there’s a lot of snow and when it stars sliding…
Wheelock: Is that where Ben’s man cave is?
Campbell: No. We had a riding arena in there for the horses.
Wheelock: I remember Libby telling me about it.
Campbell: Yeah, everything was for the horses, you know, that we did for a lot
of years.
Wheelock: So how long did you live in the trailer before
Campbell: I moved back here in 1978, I think it was. We came after, it was in
the spring I think, Shannon and I did, because Colin and Ben were
already here because it was that spring that I was helping Ben, I
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was painting his office. Then we moved into our house in 1979 so I
started teaching in the fall of ’78 here. Jackie Morlen and I and
Mary Lou Joseph and Bert was teaching…
Wheelock: Environmental Ed?
Campbell: Environmental Ed and Mary Jo whatever her last name was, I don’t
know if they were with BOCES or if they were with what program.
Jackie Morlen, that’s the one in Bayfield. Yeah, Jackie started
teaching the same year I did at the high school.
Wheelock: Here in Ignacio.
Campbell: Then Ben kept doing his jewelry and he quit down at Sky Ute Downs
and just concentrated on doing his jewelry works and went to show
all over the country and one everywhere and developed his name.
He had before we left California but really pushed it. Then one day,
Dotty Brown, I don’t know if you remember Dotty Brown?
Wheelock: I remember a Dotty but I’m not sure what the last name was.
Campbell: She was pretty involved, she got involved in school activities and
school stuff. Her son, what was his name? Travis? She had an only
son. Anyway she called and wanted to know if Ben would go to the
central committee meeting in Durango for the Democratic party. I
was like, “I don’t think so.” (laughs) I don’t think so, you know. We
had a plane at that time so we were going to go to Aspen or
something for the day, fly over. It was storming.
Wheelock: Does Ben fly?
Campbell: He got his piolets and I soloed.
Wheelock: Oh really? Wow. I’m impressed, Linda. Continue.
Campbell: We were going to go over to Aspen for the day and then he
thought, maybe I’ll just go to that meeting down at the fairgrounds
for the Democratic party. Because Al Brown had been the sheriff or
he was the sheriff but he had graduated from San Jose State in
California where Ben graduated from. Ben said, “I’ll go down there
and support him.” They were looking for people to run for the fiftyninth district for the state of Colorado. Don Whalen of Fort Lewis
college, he was running as a Republican and so nobody wanted to
run against him. Ben had gotten up and spoke about Al Brown
because he’s a really good speaker and so when they kept asking
people if they would run for the fifty-ninth, he said everybody had a
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reason why they wouldn’t. I’m too sick. I’m too busy. I’m too
whatever. The last one standing on the floor was Ben and they said,
“What about you?” And Ben said, “I don’t know. What do you have
to do?” and they said, “Oh not much, we’ll do it all. We’ll help you.”
“How much does it cost?” “Oh not much at all.” “Well…” he said,
“Well…”
Wheelock: Now had you gone to the meeting?
Campbell: No, we were supposed to go to Farmington because we had some
horses in training down there we were supposed to take some hay
down and finally he came home and I said, “What in the world? I
thought you were just going to be gone for (laughs)” and he said,
“Guess what?” I said, “What?” He said, “I’m a candidate.” I said, “A
candidate?! For what?” (laughs) He said, “For the fifty-ninth district
state representative.” I said, “What do they do?” He said, “I don’t
know.” I said, “How many of them are there?” “I don’t know how
many.” And that night we went to our first event over in Pagosa and
the next headline the next day: Dems announce surprise
candidate. I’ve got all of the scrap books from Dave.
Wheelock: Do you? Wow.
Campbell: Yeah. Ann Brown called him up and she had been mayor in
Durango and she said, “Do you need some help? Do you know
what you’re doing?” “Heavens, I haven’t got a clue what I’m
doing.” She said, “You need help?” He said, “Well yeah, I guess so.”
So Ann, thank god for Ann, she became his campaign manager
because she knew everybody around her. She lived here forever in
Durango. She said, “First thing you have to do is you got to go talk
to Sam Means, get his approval.” So Ben thought, okay and he
went down there. Ben said, “What chance do you think I have?” He
said, “You want to know what chance I think you have? You’ve got
two chances, little and none.” (laughs)
Wheelock: Now was he the lawyer here already?
Campbell: For the tribe. Yeah. So Sam said, “Little or none.” Ben thought, well,
that’s not going to happen but nobody knew he was a competitor.
Nobody knew he went to the Olympic games, nobody knew, you
know? They just thought he was…(laughs)
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Campbell: He was a surprise candidate, yeah. Colin and Shannon, they were
little when he first got into politics. Then he won, beat Don Whalen
who stayed a friend for the rest of his life.
Wheelock: Don is a wonderful man.
Campbell: They were great and it was a shock to him that he lost. I think
because he had been everything. He was Fort Lewis, I think he was
the interim president or president and the athletics and then he was
on the airport commission. I mean, he had been everything that he
should be before you run for office. (laughs) In fact, his Gary is still
really close friends with us, his son. So then Ben went to Denver and I
stayed and taught and took care of the ranch and took care of the
kids and did all that. He was only gone six months or seven months;
you know when they’re in session at the state legislature. So he
would come back on weekends, fly up and fly back.
Wheelock: It’s good that he got his pilot’s license.
Campbell: Well he didn’t do that though. I mean he flew commercial because
it’s too dangerous to fly private over these mountains because
when you have to go you have to go. It’s not like you can say,
“Nope, not going today.” So I kept teaching here. I think I was
down in the elementary and intermediate school when he was first
elected. I took care, we had cows, like fifty Brangus cows and
calves and horses and the kids and the 4-H and teaching…
Wheelock: Now did you have help with the ranch at all?
Campbell: No. I didn’t.
Wheelock: I’m impressed.
Campbell: Jake Candelaria used to help me a lot. He would come and help
do different, you know, with the cows and stuff. But no, pretty much
on my own. Ben ran two terms and he was going to come home
because it is a real hardship on a family that people have no idea.
Then also on the state legislature there is no help. There’s a
secretary for the pool of legislators but not individual so I would type
his letters. It was before PC’s and so you’d get all the way through
and then make a mistake and…It was awful, awful. When he first
went in to office, I think it was ’83, 1983 there was no cell phones,
there were no fax’s, there were no computers, you had to write a
letter or call long distance to talk to your legislators because there
was no other way. They didn’t pay much at all. I think he made
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14,000, 15,000 or something. It was pretty low. But then we were
making not very much teaching either.
Wheelock: That’s the only thing you did pretty much was through your
ranching.
Campbell: Well yeah. It was hard. He was only going to do those two terms
and then come home and then they talked him into running
against Mike String for U.S. congress. He was in there already so he
was an incumbent and so what the heck? (laughs) Oh my god. So
we, because we would travel all the time, weekends I would go
with them and help them and the kids would too, we did parades
and all of this stuff and teaching all week and stuff for campaign
and that year that he beat Mike String there were only five
congressmen that beat incumbents, where incumbents were beat,
Ben was one of them.
Wheelock: Through your help.
Campbell: Well, the whole family. There has to be somebody that takes care of
everything here. Or you couldn’t do it. You can’t. So when you see
J. Paul you need to thank him because, and Debbie especially. It’s
a hardship. It’s a really, really hardship on families.
Wheelock: But, like, with J. Paul, his boys are already big and he ran pretty
much when they were already [cross talk 52.46]
Campbell: They were out of school. They were out of school. [crosstalk 52.48]
Wheelock: Compared to like you. Yeah.
Campbell: Yeah because they were in elementary school.
Wheelock: Deb really doesn’t work.
Campbell: She works at the ranch but she doesn’t work outside of the home.
Wheelock: So you’re definitely…
Campbell: Everything. You’re everything. So then our political thing. He did
three terms in the U.S. congress and was going to run one more
term and then come home. I was listening to the radio at home,
doing everything and I heard on the radio Tim Worth decided he
was not going to run for U.S. Senate and I said, “Oh no.” My heart
just, like, oh my god. Pretty soon I get a call, it’s Ben, he said, “I’m
going to go for senate.” I said, “Okay.” He said, “Up or up.” We
went from two-thirds of all of Colorado was the third congressional
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district, you know in the state legislature it was six counties. It was
San Juan, Archuleta, Montezuma, and La Plata. I guess it’s four
counties. We had to travel all over the district all the time and go to
events in those four counties which turned out to be not that big of
a deal. Then when he ran for congress it was two-thirds of the state
because the third congressional district takes up over two-thirds of
the whole state from all of from Grand Junction as far to the Utah
border to the New Mexico border, Arizona border, up to Pueblo.
Colorado Springs isn’t in it but up through Pueblo. It’s a huge district
driving and most places you had to drive because there’s not flights
unless you chartered flights or something. It’s a commitment.
Keeping up with that and doing that so then when he said he was
running for senate I thought, oh my god, that’s the whole state. He
announced and Terry Considine was the republican that was
running and he’d been running for two years and this was in May or
June that Tim Worth decided he wasn’t going to run so it didn’t
leave much time from June to November.
Wheelock: Now what year was this?
Campbell: He ran for state rep was from ’86 to ’92 and then he ran in ’92 for
U.S. senate. He was there from ’92 to 2005.
Wheelock: And you were still doing all of this?
Campbell: I was doing everything. We still had to 4-H going for a long time plus
we were breeding horses because we were raising quarter horses,
show quarter horses and stuff. When he ran for senate, the minute I
heard that Tim Worth wasn’t going to run on the radio I was just like,
“Oh no, they’re going to get him to run.” I just knew it and I was like,
“Oh my god. Why can’t we just stay in something that’s easy for a
while?” Because once you’re in it’s, and you develop all of these
relationships and you develop all of this constituents, you know, it’s
much easier than going through the whole thing. Anyway, he ran
and we went, I would haul, he rode Scamp who was Colin’s horse,
that big black and white paint that you see [cross talk 57.49] I would
haul him to Grand Junction to all of these parades so Ben could
ride him in the parades because he was such an image and stuff.
Pretty much did it all. Hauled that horse over Red Mountain, all of
these passes, all the time. Sometimes, the kids were like junior high
when he first got into the senate or they might have been like
freshman, eighth and ninth grade or something. Sometimes they
would go with me and sometimes I would just go by myself and haul
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them over to Montrose and Grand Junction and up to Pueblo and
all over the state and teaching.
Wheelock: Yes, yes, and a very good teacher at that.
Campbell: Teaching and taking care of the ranch and doing everything. I think
when he first ran for senate Ann Swing, Ann was the principal. Ann
and I had grown up in Montrose.
Wheelock: You were next door neighbors right?
Campbell: Well her husband, Larry Swain, his folks lived right across the street
from my folks. Ann had lived down the block in Montrose so her
husband’s folks were really close friends with my folks.
Wheelock: And so she lived just right there, so they were like childhood
sweethearts then?
Campbell: Yeah, they had gotten married before she got out of high school.
Wheelock: Oh, okay. Really?
Campbell: Yeah.
Wheelock: Did she go to the same college as you?
Campbell: They got married and they had kids and then she went back to
college after the kids were grown.
Wheelock: Well that’s remarkable too.
Campbell: She went to Western State, yeah, she did. Larry might have gone
but I know Ann didn’t because she had kids to take care of and
stuff.
Wheelock: By the time she moved here…
Campbell: She was divorced and…
Wheelock: Her kids were already grown.
Campbell: Yeah her kids were grown when she moved back here because I
hadn’t seen her for years when she moved back here and she was
the principal and then we became really close friends because in
the mean time we started riding Harleys.
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Campbell: I think it was in ’92 when after Shannon came up with this idea. She
said, “Mom, if dad wins for senate, let’s get him a new Harley and
take it out on the stage.” He had ridden bikes forever and I had
ridden, well I’ll have to bounce back to…when he won senate,
then we got him the big dresser of Harley. I rode behind him for a
while. He had taught me how to ride dirt bikes in California. He had
couple little Hondas in the parking lot at the Judo club. I think we
were married, he was teaching me how to ride them and there
were these great big trees at the end of the driveway and on these
streets so I went (driving sounds) right in the tree the first big thing.
Well, it didn’t hurt me though…(laughs) but then we rode those. I
took him up in the foothills in California and we rode them all the
time, these dirt bikes. We just rode them everywhere and did all that
stuff. So, I’d ridden but never on a street bike. I rode with Ben and
he decided, well Shannon, she had to been sixteen or seventeen
then because, in ’92, because he got us a bike that we were going
to share, Shannon and I. So we went up, sportster, black sportster,
that we had to take the rider safety class so we went up to
community college Denver, in Denver, not sure what the name of it,
and took this class, both Shannon and I did. That was the first time
I’d ridden a street bike, you know, and they’re pretty powerful. Then
we rode all the time and then Ann start…when she was teaching
here I said, “Ann you ought to get a bike and you can go riding
with us.” Colin had bought a bike out in California. He had
graduated, he was at GIA, he had graduated from Fort Lewis and
he found this bike of one of his students that also were at GIA that
lived in Japan or somewhere and wanted to sell it. He had it
shipped back here and then he taught Ann how to ride it. So Ann
started riding.
Wheelock: She didn’t have to take the class?
Campbell: Oh yeah, she took the class. She rode with us for years, we rode
everywhere. Then we started Harley Angels. (laughs) Did that…
Wheelock: You did all kinds of…
Campbell: Maneuvers, yeah.
Wheelock: That was fun to see. You guys were good.
Campbell: Yeah, we were good. (laughs) The bike whole world was another
whole thing but anyway, then after Ben was elected to senate he
was the grand marshal of the Rose Bowl parade in ’92. He and
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Colin hauled the horse all the way to Pasadena for the Rose Bowl
parade, for the grand marshal. That was one of the really fun things,
you know what I mean? One thing, there was a lot of sacrifices but
there was some good things too. Just going to the Rose Bowl and
being part of that.
Wheelock: Now did you ride your horse also?
Campbell: No, they had a buggy for us right behind them so we rode and the
horse was covered with flowers and the kids both rode in it too and
the whole family was. That was a really fun, fun great thing to do.
Skip ahead to…bikes kept going. We kept going to more and more
bike things and then he started the rally here in ’93 is the first poster I
have. When he and Mike Lovato started the rally in Ignacio. It grew
and grew until it was like 30,000 people.
Wheelock: I even helped in that.
Campbell: Yeah, Danny [crosstalk 1.07.03] used to pick up trash.
Wheelock: He still does that.
Campbell: Yeah, Danny with all of his space camp kids would do that. Started
the rally here and some people were for it and some people were
against it. Whenever you do anything but, to bring…
Wheelock: Sure did bring a lot of income in.
Campbell: Oh my gosh, I mean, just the amount of people it brought here and
how Ignacio… Well when ben was running Sky Ute Downs too,
skipping back a ways, we started these quarter horse circuits before
he quit at the Downs he had the longest quarter horses circuit in the
whole United States. It was nine days and it was just before the
cutoff for points for world championship. People came from Texas,
Oklahoma, Arizona; I mean they were from all over. It was three
days, a break, three days, a break, three days, a break. They could
get a lot of points for… The amount of things, I think, that we as a
family brought in to this community was pretty significant.
Wheelock: Oh I think so, I definitely do.
Campbell: Just like the quarter horse thing never once we quit down there and
once the kids were in 4-H, they stayed in it until high school. Then it
all just kind of died back, unless you have somebody that’s really
going to do it. And then the rally, they live up to huge thing and
then…once we dropped out.
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Wheelock: It’s definitely not the same.
Campbell: Never been the same, never been the same since. I think we
haven’t contributed near like a lot of families that have been here
their whole life but I was in Colorado my whole life. I think it was
pretty significant, the different things that we got going. There was
no horse 4-H club here until we started it. There was no quarter horse
circuit here. And the rally and just different things like that.
Wheelock: Well you were also a lobbyist. Can you…
Campbell: After I quit teaching.
Wheelock: Why did you decide to quit teaching?
Campbell: Dare I say it?
Wheelock: You don’t have to. You may do it.
Campbell: Ben stayed in the senate, his first term and then he switched parties.
Wheelock: That was hard on a lot of democrats.
Campbell: Yeah but they need to get over it. (laughs) They need to get over it
because the whole thing, it was just the extremes in both parties are
wackos. Most people are right in the middle and Ben, as a
Democrat when he was in the U.S. senate, they rate him from one
to one hundred and he was always forty-eight to fifty-one, right in
the middle, and he always won the women’s vote, the Hispanic
vote, the minority vote. He always won labor. Then when he
switched over, so he’s the first person in Colorado that ever
switched parties and won in both parties. He won by the same
percentage that he did, he won by over ten percent and he won
the same groups of people. His voting record was always between
forty-eight and fifty-one, as his rating. So the most extreme liberal
which was, what was his name? I can’t remember. To Jessie Helms,
to the far right. Party shouldn’t mean anything, I don’t think. I think
it’s getting stuff done. When people get so hung up on parties, look
what’s happening to the country now because of it. Everybody’s
just worried about getting reelected that they are afraid to do
anything. In all those years Ben got more bills passed than all of the
former senators in the U.S. senate Colorado in history because he
was able to work both sides. People are people. Doesn’t matter
whether you are a democrat or republican.
Wheelock: When you quit teaching…
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Campbell: I quit teaching. I should have taught at least twenty-five years, you
know, I should have stayed longer. The reason I didn’t, it was after
he won U.S. senate the second time, it’s because there were so
many things I couldn’t do and Ann was always fabulous about, in
fact when he first announced that he was running for senate and it
was all spur of the moment, they wanted me to come up to Denver
to be with him for his announcement and I called Ann and Ann
says, “Go.” At that time, I was still working at the elementary and
Roy Lyons was there and he was an asshole about doing anything
and yet I never took a day off sick leave, I never used any of my
sick leave ever. He just instead of saying, Oh my god. Think of what
that could have done to this district if he would have been, you
know, think of what could have really happened for here. The same
thing that Ben did for Mercy hospital and Fort Lewis college. It was
just so short sighted and it was such a hassle to do anything. Ann
said, “You go. We’ll figure it out. You just go.” So I called Roy and he
just gave me all kinds of grief he said, “You’re going to be docked.”
I said, “Are you kidding me? Don’t you even see the big picture?” I
said, “Forget it, I’m not going.” So I didn’t go. It was just like oh my
gosh, is this worth it? To stay here and work and not have the
flexibility. It was Ed Cutslet though that set up the thing because he
saw the value where Lyons was just…
Wheelock: I’m glad it worked out though.
Campbell: Ed and I are still great friends. He was just totally…anyway, we’re
almost up to present time. I think one of the things…I was a sponsor
for the U.S.S. Mesa Verde which was a really fabulous, it’s U.S. Navy
warship which was really, really fun and fabulous to be able to be
that because there’s not very many sponsors in the whole country
of ships, warships especially. I was the one that christened it. I think I
was still teaching then because…no, no because I was on the Fort
Lewis board then. Ron Cross, he gave me a big bottle or something
to use. Just to be able to do those kind of things and be part of it
was neat and to be able to take off because we’ve traveled all
over the world which I couldn’t have done if I had stayed teaching.
There’s no way that I could have taken that much time off or been
working for nothing. I retired or quit teaching I had like 180 sick days.
Wheelock: That’s like me too.
Campbell: So the benefit was to be able to travel. We went to Africa, we went
to Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Russia, everywhere all over the world.
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Egypt, places that you wouldn’t really want to go today. To be able
to go like we did, without going through security and all that. We
always went on military flights and be able to meet the people, the
Queen of England, all of these people and the opening of the
NMAI that Ben was a sponsor for the National Museum of American
Indian Museum. Just to do those kind of things made all this other
work worthwhile. I love the kids and the kids…
Wheelock: They loved you.
Campbell: They come up all the time, “Oh, Ms. Campbell, Ms. Campbell.” In
fact, we bought the bakery building and David Silva…
Wheelock: I had him as a student.
Campbell: I had him and I said, “You were a little shit. I believe in you and I’m
miss, I’m going to give you a chance to do it.” He can do it and
stuff and just to have those memories and the number of people
around here that you know from teaching here and how they never
forget you. I remember one incident, Thali Silva and Diane Waters,
they were in my advanced math class when I working with you, I
worked with you a lot. We worked really well together.
Wheelock: I think so.
Campbell: I think so too, but they kept saying, “Ms. Campbell, Ms. Campbell,
can we come home with you and stay with you for a while?” I said,
“After spring break.” This was in the fall. (laughs) Then they said, “Ms.
Campbell, spring break’s coming up, after can we come stay with
you?” I said, “Well, you have to get notes from your mom, you have
to do this, you have to do that.” Thinking they wouldn’t do it. The
day I said, “Oh my gosh.” They said, “Okay, we’re ready to come
stay.” I said, “Well, we have a faculty meeting down at the district
office, you’ll have to come down and get my Jeep.” I had a little
jeep. When I came out of that meeting, they were there. I thought,
oh my gosh. I took them out on the four-wheelers, we were feeding
cows, we were doing all of this stuff. Thali still talks about it all the
time, every time I see her she talks about it. And now Mahvish (?) is
always saying, “Oh my god.” I just think it’s so sad…
Wheelock: I talked to the grandmother of Thali and Dianne Waters and she
said that that’s one of the highlights of Thali’s life. One of the
wonderful times.

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Interviewee: Linda Campbell
Interviewer: Liz Wheelock
Date: May 19, 2016
Campbell: Yeah, because what’s-her-name was the counselor in there, she
told me, Dianne Waters, that she had her and she said that Dianne,
because I guess she moved to Durango after or something, and
said that too. I think, what a shame our society is getting so bad
that if I thought to do something like that now, oh my god, the
liability, everything. Dianne stayed there the whole week, I never
ever heard from her mom. I’d take her to school and Thali, her mom
only let her stay three nights, I think. She said, “You can’t. You’ve
got to come home.” I said, “She’s fine. She’s fine.” I think, what a
shame that you can’t do that and you can’t hug kids. I would be
hesitant to pick up a kid walking along this road now and isn’t that
awful? It is awful that they’ve gotten to that far being such a, you
know, protective where kids don’t have experience because I
remember in first grade, Mrs. Hanes was my first grade teacher and
she had this long bobsled and she would load up all of her first
graders every year and drive them around the streets in Montrose
behind her car, pulling them on that sled and I remember that as if
it was yesterday. I mean just what a fabulous memory to have
something like that, a teacher would do that with you.
Wheelock: Well, my trips when I used to take the kids to Albuquerque and we
even saw the Ice Capades. It was wonderful.
Campbell: I know, I know. It’s fabulous and kids never forget it. You don’t forget
it.
Wheelock: Well I know you’ve been a wonderful influence.
Campbell: I don’t know about that but…
Wheelock: I do.
Campbell: I think this community is pretty amazing and the people in it are,
because when we first were going to buy here the realtors did not
want to show us property, or show Ben because I was still in
California, property out here. They said, “You don’t want to live out
there. You don’t want to. You want to live in Durango.” He said,
“No, I think we want to live out here.” I think, if people even got to
know this community like it is, it is so amazing and it’s so great and
then the people in it are so wonderful. Now, I wouldn’t want to do
business with the town anymore though, after what David went
through. That was a horrible experience, I would never buy property
in town again to have to deal with the harassment and stuff that we
went through, that David went through opening a business here but
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Interviewee: Linda Campbell
Interviewer: Liz Wheelock
Date: May 19, 2016
that’s my only negative thing I’ve ever experienced in town. Well,
because we live out of town but we also have another building
here in town, an auto parts building which has never been an issue
or hard to deal with.
Wheelock: Is that the one with Chris May?
Campbell: (Affirmative noise) So that’s my only negative thing that I would say.
Wheelock: Well I don’t see you as a negative person at all so…
Campbell: No. Just to go through that, I wouldn’t do it again. I figure it’s hard,
it’s hard to own a business, it’s hard to open a business, our
daughter has two galleries in Santa Fe and in Durango, Sorrel Sky,
and just knowing what people go through that own their own
business.
Wheelock: Now, did she have as hard a time in opening a building there as
David did here?
Campbell: I don’t think so.
Wheelock: Really?
Campbell: Part of it was people didn’t want the competition and did
everything they could to drive him broke.
Wheelock: I’m worried about it just because right now I don’t see a lot of
people there. Some days I do but, you know…
Campbell: It’s pretty good [cross talk 1.25.49]
Wheelock: I’m glad to hear that because we were so excited to see it open.
And I ate breakfast, Rick and I ate breakfast there and it was
wonderful.
Campbell: The food has been great.
Wheelock: The food is delicious. It really is.
Campbell: It is really great.
Wheelock: Big servings, I couldn’t even eat all mine.
Campbell: Yeah. You have to take it home with you. When David came
because I knew him when he was a kid, he and Daniel. I said,
“Okay, I’m going to take a chance on you. Don’t prove me
wrong.”
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Interviewee: Linda Campbell
Interviewer: Liz Wheelock
Date: May 19, 2016
Wheelock: He’s a very good man I think.
Campbell: And such a worker. When you see these kids that want to follow
their dream and you don’t do everything you can to help them
achieve that dream and then something’s wrong with the system.
When you’d rather see them on welfare or getting food stamps
instead of being a productive citizen and providing jobs and tax
revenue for the town then something’s wrong. Something is wrong.
Anyway, that’s that. That’s the end.
Wheelock: Linda thank you so much, it has been wonderful and I’ve learned a
lot. I’m glad I was able to get you because I know Ben is there but I
think the women, there’s something about the woman…
Campbell: And I got two awards. I got the Mara Lee Ballantine woman of the
year award in Durango, through them, chamber of commerce in
Durango, and then I got the extraordinary woman award from
three of us from the woman’s resource.
Wheelock: Well I can see, I’m glad, because you deserve it and thank you so
much, I appreciate you doing this.
Campbell: You’re welcome.

[End of transcription]

Transcribed by: Megan Chambellan July 6, 2017
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                    <text>Tom Wiseman
(Abridged)
My full name is William Thomas Wiseman. I was born in Durango at Mercy Hospital in
November 1930. My mother was Margaret Summers Wiseman; her maiden name was Bowman.
Her father, Thomas E. Bowman, came over Stony Pass into Silverton in 1874. He was a young
Civil War veteran, and a recent graduate of the University of Wisconsin in metallurgy. He had
acquired a job as a teacher at Colorado College, but coming west he had become interested in the
gold fever. He became associated with the people named Greene, who brought the first smelter
into Silverton, CO. He was later on the Town Board in Silverton, and later on after many years
moved to Durango when the Silverton smelter became less efficient. He married my
grandmother, Etta Louisa Bowman, in 1881 I believe it was. He was 20 years older than she.
They later had a son named William Bowman and a daughter named Lena Bowman in 1891 and
1894. And then my mother, a late life child, came along surprisingly in 1905. So, that accounts
for me, at my tender age of 73, having a grandfather who was in the Civil War and not a greatgrandfather. He passed away about seven years before I was born, so I never got to know him
although I know a lot about him.
My father was born in Pagosa Junction, CO; where his father in 1904 was working for
the railroad. Apparently the family was living there while he worked construction, and
previously my grandfather had homesteaded far southeast of Bayfield on what is now called New
Creek. Later, after my dad's parents divorced, he, his brother Barney and my grandmother Lula
moved to Durango; where my dad went to work at the age of 14. After her finishing the eighth
grade in Bayfield schools, my mom and he met in Durango and married in 1927.
Having worked in several different areas in Durango, he was at this time working at a
firm called the Durango Hardware Company; which was located on the 900 block of Main in
Durango. He became acquainted with a wholesale hardware salesman, who told him about an
opportunity to manage a store in Ignacio. The store being named HC. Biggs and Company;
which was a hardware, lumber, farm implement and feed dealer at the time. Dad must have been
only 25 or something at the time, so he came out here, stayed at the local commercial hotel, and
worked for Mr. Biggs for some time. A few months later, he moved his family to Ignacio. The
Biggs family moved to Grand Junction at this time. So, I was two years old when we moved to
Ignacio. I virtually grew up in the hardware store. Much of my time off was spent there- it
seemed to be a fun place to be.
Later on, went to school here in Ignacio through the ninth grade. At this time and in
previous years, kids from Ignacio went to Durango to finish high school. And, at this time, in the
late 40s, had lost its accreditation: due to the war the enrollment at the school was very, very
low. I graduated from Durango High School in 1948, entered the University of Denver that Fall,
and graduated from there in 1952.
When I first went to Denver, to school, I felt that I really wanted to get into the big time,
was not much interested in coming back to this part of the country. At that time, most kids my
age kind of wanted to leave the area for bigger opportunities. But, most of my acquaintances at

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Denver University were older than I. They were mostly World War II veterans. They seemed to
be delighted in the mountains, the scenery. Most of them were from back East and the Midwest.
After a year or two I started looking around and thinking more carefully that I had mountains out
my front door window everyday. I slowly realized that this was my home and would be so.
In 1954, while working with my father (by all this time through school and after school),
I met and married a girl from Bayfield named Beverly Moberly. We had three children:
Gretchen, born in 1956; Loretta, born in 1957; and Larry, born in 1959. Throughout all of these
years I was active in all conceivable local service organizations: Kiwanis Clubs, Lions Clubs,
various committees with the Southern Ute Tribe, I was involved on the Town Board through
several contentious years as a board member and mayor pro tern. I was involved in things like
trying to save the old Ignacio Chieftain newspaper. I have always been hopeful that somehow a
museum could be built in this area to commemorate the unusual history of this young, strangely
versatile town.

In 1976 my father died, in 1979 my mother died. In the meantime, in 1968, I had
purchased the entirety of the hardware store from my dad, and he retired happily after that. But,
he did work some in the hardware store at his and my convenience and desire-we were always
good friends, the best. In 1981-82, I divorced my wife. She moved to Durango, the kids by this
time were all over the age of 21 and were scattered throughout the country. Six years later, I
went to a high school class reunion, where I re-met my old girl that I had dated in high school
named Paula. We married in 1988. She is practically a Durango native, at least she's a Colorado
native (having been born in Durango).
I don't consider myself to be such an unusual character, but boy have I met a lot of them.
The pioneers of this town are underreported I believe. For example, Hans Aspas; who as an
infant (aged one and a half years), was carried by his mother over Stony Pass into Silverton at
about the same time that my grandfather arrived there. His father had been an officer in the
Norwegian army. Harold Payne and many of the old, old timers that I didn't know, but who
were terrific strong, solid people. Joe Velasquez, many, many Southern Utes- Julius Cloud,
Julian Baker- we're all acquaintances. Did business with them, was friends with them. To many
it would have been an uneventful life; to me it's very colorful. My children love this area. They
have mixed emotions about their childhood, but as they grow and mature I think they realize
their acquaintance the Southern Ute tribal members, the Navajo tribal members whom they went
to school with when the schools were integrated (the public schools and the Indian school).
They're Spanish-American friends have given them a broad diversity, an understanding and
comfort with, I believe, other races and people of other beliefs and values.

***
I've essentially lived on this street all my life. When we first moved to Ignacio, the
Biggs house; which is on the 500 block of Browning Ave. (where Jesse Hott now lives), was our
house until 1935 when my father bought the little house across the street here [455 Browning
Ave.]; which at one time was 470 Browning Ave. Then, after I married, I bought the house two
doors north on that side of the street [east side]; which at that time was 440 Browning Ave.

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In 1977 or '78, the house where I live now, presently, (455 Browning Ave.) came up for
sale and I bought it, having always enjoyed and liked the house. We spent a great deal of money
overhauling, remodeling, and adding rooms upstairs to the house. This house was built by the
person who owned the local lumberyard; which was at that time known as Ignacio Lumber Co.
Circa 1916 or '17, it was sold to the Biggs family, who were part ofa big lumber operation out
of Chama, and also with family connections in Grand Junction. The store was owned and
operated by Homer Biggs- Homer C. Biggs (the 'C.' stands for Copeland, I believe). They had
three children, one of whom was named Homer Biggs, Jr. They went to school here. The
Historical Society now has pictures, early class pictures, including 'Joe' Biggs- his nickname
was 'Joe' to his family. He later, during the early part of World War II, left Colorado College
and became an Army Air Force cadet. He learned to fly in Phoenix, at Luke Field I believe it
was. Went into B-17 training. In May of 1943, his bomber was shot down over France and he
did not survive. Among other tons of pictures that I have, I have a picture of that flight crew.
I'm deeply interested in the success of the Historical Society. And, I hope that somehow,
someday a facility can be acquired, or participated in, where so many pictures and records of
archives can be safely preserved for the future. This community has always been a rather
cosmopolitan community, because of the original Bureau of Indian Affairs/Dept. of the Interior
school system here mainly for Navajo kids. The school existed from what must have been the
1920s to about 1970. The many oil and gas interests that have had staff located here, the wide
diversity of teaching talent, there's been quite a variety from all over the country. My own
background, for example: My grandfather (my mother's father) came from Wisconsin-born there
a year and half after his mother migrated from England to Wisconsin. Her mother [Tom's
mother's mother], Edna Louis Bowman, was born in Ohio, and came out here to stay with an
elder sister; who was married to a Methodist minister in Durango, in the 1880' s. My father's
father came out here from North Carolina, from the mountains of NC to homestead. And his
wife, my grandmother, also came from the mountains of North Carolina. So, we have our own
eastern 'roots'.
I was an only child. There were two other attempts: one before me and one after me,
both were unsuccessful. My mother was born on December 1905 at home in Durango at 760 3rd
Avenue. The house is still there. It's for sale. You could snab it up for about $450,000, I think,
right now. My grandfather Bowman owned quite a bit of property in Durango at one time. The
Silver Panic of 1892-93 apparently put him on his 'uppers' for several years, but he did open a
bookshop and a stationary store circa 760 Main Ave. (in the same building that is the Seasons
Restaurant today). I have pictures of it, and it still has the same ceiling I think. He ran that store
until he died in 1923. He died during his lunch hour at home. I've learned more about my
grandfather, T.E. Bowman, from books written by Allen Nossaman; who wrote an incredible
history of Silverton, CO. Allen has come to this house. I've furnished him with pictures of my
granddad. His three volumes that he's published so far on Silverton are extremely detailed.
Much is derived from newspapers and courthouse records, land records and family photographs.
And, I think I know more about my grandfather's history than my mother did through the efforts
of Allen Nossaman.
My grandfather, he was in the Civil War. He was very young, of course: he was born in
1846 and the war started in '61. He enlisted in 1864, in the spring, with a volunteer Wisconsin

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infantry battalion. He was underage. He allegedly lied about his age and said he was over 16.
He eased his conscience by writing on a piece of paper that he was 16 putting it in his shoe, and
swearing that he was 16. I have pictures of him in his uniform, which was way too large. But,
he served as a drummer boy. At the end of his enlistment he reenlisted in an artillery outfit in
late '64. He served primarily around Washington, D.C. I don't think he was in any major
battles. But he was a member of the Durango chapter of the Grand Army of the Republic-the
G.A.R. I think he was one of the founding officers of it. When he died, my grandmother applied
for and received a Civil War pension. It wasn't very much, maybe $12 a month or something
like that. After getting out of the Army he literally had to be adopted by an uncle named
'Bowman'. My grandfather's birth name was Thomas Merritt Dibley. Now, 'Dibley' somehow
disappeared from the picture, and left my granddad's mother's side.
In his early life he married a girl named Josephine Standish in Wisconsin; who is
purported to be a relative of Miles Standish. They moved to Silverton. She taught school there.
They spent some winters in Denver, some time in Denver. This was after the train was
completed, and in those days it was not hard to get to Denver: grab the train in Silverton to
Durango, through Ignacio, Pagosa, Chama, Alamosa, and onto the main standard gauge up to
Denver. So, people got around a lot more quickly than people realize. She caught Scarlet Fever
in Denver, and died I believe on Christmas Day circa 1889. He buried her in the Riverside
Cemetery in Denver; which at that time was quite a nice cemetery at that time. She's buried
about 30 ft. from Augusta Taber (who was the first wife ofH.A.W. Taber-one of the silver kings
of CO). Strangely when she died, my grandfather bought four cemetery plots. I have the deed
for them today, and I'm guessing that they're still valid. In case anyone needs cemetery plots in
Riverside Cemetery, I can furnish three more.
After moving to Durango, he was in the First Baptist Church he and my grandmother, I
think, met at some choir function around 1890. Her name was Etta Louisa Summers. He was
the master of the local Masonic Lodge #46; he was about the eighth master of that lodge.
My grandfather Wiseman, on the other hand, moved to Denver after his divorce. Built a
house there and worked for the railroad as a master carpenter. He worked in D. &amp; R. G. [Denver
and Rio Grande] shops for the rest of his life. He died in 1945. I went deer hunting with him
once. Two or three months before he died he was down here visiting us. We have since visited
some of our 'roots' in North Carolina.
My father worked for H.C. Biggs and Company here in Ignacio. Later, in 1940, he
bought out a fourth of it, and in 1950 bought the rest of it. He changed the name to 'Wiseman
Hardware and Lumber Co.', and that's what it remained until I sold it to Glenn Walker in 1992.
Walker subsequently changed it to 'Walker's True Value', and moved down south of town and
built a new hardware store.

***
The reason my grandmother [Etta Louisa] came to CO was that her older sister (Kate
Summers) was living in Durango. Her husband was a Methodist minister. My grandmother had

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become enchanted with a musician in Shelby, Ohio. Her father [Daniel B. Summers] wanted to
get her out of that influence, and so decided to send her to CO.

***
I studied Business Administration at the University of Denver. BS/BA I think is what my
degree said: Bachelor of Science in Business Administration. We sold everything except
groceries: tractors, mowing machines, washing machines, various name brands, sold all.

***
My oldest daughter is married to David Germer, whom she met at school in Denver.
They were married in 1976. He was a graduate of Colorado School of Mines. He had come
:from Pennsylvania to go to school at Mines, took a look at the mountains and never looked back.
His career took them to Alaska, where they've lived for about 15 years. My other daughter (my
middle child, my youngest daughter), Loretta, married a fellow from Florence, CO whom she
met at school in Canyon City. He graduated from UNC (University of Northern Colorado at Fort
Collins) as a mechanical engineer, and now works at power plant operations in Wyoming.
Neither grandchild grew up here [in Ignacio], and none of the four [grandchildren] has spent
much time here.

***
Lots and lots of stories, good heavens. The people I have known here, in Ignacio, are
some of the most colorful. Some of the stories ... For example, the young lady in the late 30s
who was a teacher here, and who married a young man a southern town in CO. He went off to
war, she moved to California during the early part of the war with their child. She met a fellow
named Gimbal, and the rest is history. She sent off a 'Dear John' letter to her husband, and said
Mr. Gimbal is the light of my life. (Of course, his $60 million bank account helped.) Little
stories like that. Stories of making the movie Around the World in 80 Days [in
Ignacio] ... fascinating. Some of the Historical Society's photos now show some of that filming
done. Paul Harvey doing his great radio show from here-a lot of people don't even know that
ever happened. That in itself could fill at least four chapters in a local history book.

***
M.M.: "What are your views on the current [presidential] administration, and our actions in
Iraq?"
T.W.: "I think that we're doing exactly the right thing. Those who don't remember World War
II, and I wasn't in it (I was too young, I was 11 when Pearl Harbor happened), forget a
fellow named Neville Chamberlain who was trying to make peace with Hitler. He said,
after meeting with Hitler and before Hitler invaded Poland, 'Peace in our time, to Hitler
marches all.' They forget what was not done to stop the Nazis, during WW II, from
slaughtering for their [the Jews'] teeth, for their fillings in their teeth. We forget that we
were the ones who said, 'Damn the torpedoes!' a couple hundred years ago. Or, the

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people who said, during WW II, 'Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition!' We're the
ones who sent 20 year olds over to England to fly bombers in WW II, and now most 20
year olds couldn't find the bathroom if you didn't hold their hand to it, in my personal
estimation. Am I bitter? Yeah. Angry? Yeah."
M.M.: "What are you bitter about?"
T.W.: "I'm bitter about these people that don't realize how many of their parents and
grandparents, previous generations, who fought and died and killed so that they could
spend the last 20-30 years lofting along having no problems at all, except to complain
about the price of cigarettes.

***
Calvin Coolidge, who was president in the late 20s, said, 'the business of America is business.'
Doesn't that sound terrible [sarcastically]? That which makes profits and things like that? You
know, 'profits' is not a four-letter word, surprisingly. But, look at what has happened in China.
20 years ago, in the streets of China, all you would have seen were padded olive drab uniforms
walking around with glassy eyes. Now, after the cold-hearted glance of capitalism started to
show, and the individual is able now to see that he came make himself and his family more
comfortable, healthier, is happy. It's even happening in Vietnam. Business: the horrible word
[said sarcastically].
Interviewed by Michael G.
Miller, VISTA volunteer, for
the Ignacio Historical
Society.
December 18, 2003

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TOM and ESTEFANITA (Rodriguez) GARCIA
Jose Francisco Tomas Garcia came running along the ditch, then plopped onto his
stomach under a pinon tree to watch the ditch water pound the waterwheel slowly and
relentlessly round and round. Tiny boats made of wood shavings and sticks glided along
in grand disregard for their danger, bounced down the waterwheel and disinterested in
the churning pool. At nine years of age Tomas was old enough to give his grandfather
some help in the flour mill, but like today there were slack times, too. Time to sail boats,
time to watch clouds in the blue New Mexico sky and time to listen to the wind in the
junipers. Today the hot weather sound of grasshoppers singing accompanied the
measured splashing of the wheel, and underlying all was the steady, patient, low
monotone of stone turning upon stone.
Tomas and his mother, Nepomucena, divided their time between Grandfather Garcia's
farm and flour mill and Grandfather Montoya's ranch near Espanola. Tom's father came
home as often as he could, but worked on a ranch in the Animas Valley just below the
Waterfall Ranch. Tomas, the first of seven children, was born October 4, 1880, at
Mesilla, New Mexico. He was nine when he started to school. Everyone, including the
teachers spoke Spanish. "We didn't have shows or ball games, but we played with tops,
made our own bows and arrows and shot some good marble games." On his tenth
birthday, Tom got a present he still remembers. While attempting to hitch a couple of
horses to a wagon, he received a severe kick in the head. The blow was stunning and
painful, but no permanent injury was done, except for a mark still visible on his forehead.
Tom watched the horses more closely after that.
Some of the most exciting days of the year during Tom's boyhood were the days of the
cock races. A rooster, the target of the race, would be buried in loose earth with only its
head and neck exposed. Two teams of horseman, or horsewomen, would line up at the
starting point and ride off like thunder at the shot of a gun. Members of each team would
lean precariously f rom their saddles attempting to grab the chicken and uproot it from the
earth as they rode by in full gallop. Sometimes several passes were required with much
jostling and shoving between the teams before either succeeded. Once the rooster was
in hand the team possessing it attempted to ride to a designated goal and back to the
starting line. The rooster, squawking and kicking, usually changed hands many times
being captured and recaptured by each team in a wild, horseback free-for-all. If eyes
were blackened, horses were tripped and grand fist fights broke out, that's what was
expected. Spectators took a frantic interest in the outcome partly because it was an
exciting sport and partly because betting on the winner assumed high stakes. Most of the
time there would be a women's race and then a men's race. In the evening the losing
teams were required to sponsor a dance and reception with refreshments for the winners .
Tom says the last cock race he recalls took place about 1900 in New Mexico.
In the summer of 1890 Tom's father, Jose, moved his family to the Animas Valley north
of Durango. Tom was promptly hired to operate the horse drawn hay-baler, even though
he was only 10 years old. For two years Tom went to school in Durango and learned a
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�By 1893 Tom's father had saved enough money to buy farmland near Blanco. Tom took
great pride in acquiring his own pony at this time and had fun playing Spanish Explorer in
the hills.
In 1905 when Tom came to the Pine River Valley to visit his cousin, he did not plan to
make his home here. No town existed. All that was here at the lime was the train depot, a
few homes of Tribal Members, the Indian Agency and the trading post where Tom's
cousin worked. While Tom was here, one of the employees at the post quit and the Hall
brothers gave Tom the job of clerking and delivering. The two Hall brothers who owned
the trading post lived at home with their mother. One of them was never married and the
other was a widower with several children. Employed to care for the family, keep house
and cook was a young lady named Estefanita Rodriquez. Estefanita was small, quick,
efficient and very pretty. Since Tom was assigned to milk the cow for the family and lo
eat his meals with the Halls, he met Estefanila over the milk pail and quickly acquired a
taste for her cooking. "We got acquainted pretty fast," Tom admits. They were married in
1906.
Tom continued to work at the post for a while; then they moved to Bayfield where he got
a job with the Postal Service delivering sacks of bulk mail from the Ignacio Depot to
Bayfield and then from Bayfield back to Ignacio. "There weren't any roads then, just
trails. I drove a spring wagon along a trail by Buckskin Charlie's place." Tom liked his job
because he got to keep on the move and meet people, but when Hans Aspaas bought
the Agency Store, Tom went back to work in his old job. The Halls had bought John
Taylor's land located between the present day Bank of Ignacio and the Catholic Church.
Aspaas bought a large piece of land south of the bank and together they started platting
the town of Ignacio. Tom and Estefanita worked hard and saved their money till in 1913
they hired Mr. Manzanares to build a house for them. Tom's house was one of the first
large homes built in Ignacio. Due to its thick adobe and solid wood construction, the
house is still sturdy and attractive. Of their eight children, five were boys and three were
girls. Filbert died at the age of eighteen. All the others survive.
From 1922 to 1940 Tom rented a farm 2 miles east of town. He raised wheat and hay
and kept a few cattle. During those years Tom got involved in politics. "I liked it. I worked
for the Democrats," Tom said. He took an active part in campaigns, contacted and
influenced people and made many speeches for the candidates he thought were good
people.
The large adobe building on Goddard Avenue, presently used as the school repair shop,
was built by Ignacio members of S.P.M.D.T.U. Tom recalls with a laugh that those six
letters appeared in large size across the front of the building and that some local
residents would sometimes tell strangers they meant "Some Poor Mexicans Die Tied
Up". Actually, S.P.M.D.T.U. stands for the Sociadad Protectora Mexicana de
Travajadores Unidos, a lodge devoted to protecting and improving the working conditions
of Mexican-Americans. Tom as an active member occasionally traveled to Alamosa for
regional meetings. For many years their building was used by various groups for
meetings, parties and dances and otherwise served as the major social center in town.
Estefanita's house and yard were always showplaces of flowers. She grew every kind of
fruit and vegetable she could crowd into her garden. She sold eggs, produce and cream.
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Both Garcias were hardworking all their lives. They provided well for their family and
encouraged them to get as much education as possible. In spite of the obligations of a
large family and a lifetime of hard work, Tom and Estefanita were aware of the needs of
Their neighbors. Those who know them remark that the Garcias always remembered the
poor and offered help wherever grief or sickness or trouble occurred.
Estefanita suffered several periods of Illnesses during the summer and fall of 1973. She
died in mid December.
Today when Tom has visitors, he may get a mischievous look in his eye and inform them
that the happiest hours of his life were spent in the arms of another man's wife. Before
his guests are too shocked he explains that he's talking about his mother.
Tom is now 93, looking for his 94th birthday in October. 'He doesn't get around too well
now, but his mind is alert and his memory is good, especially regarding the distant past.
When the days get warmer, Tom will spend many hours in the sun on his porch enjoying
his life on that day and remembering the good and the bad, the grief and the joys, the
mistakes and the successes of 93 years. If you're going that way and can stop for a few
minutes, he will enjoy your visit, but more than that, you may learn a thing or two.

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                    <text>THELMA(Pena)KUEBLER
"My mother, Mary Spencer Baker was an intelligent young lady, one of the first
graduates of the Chilocco Indian School in Northern Oklahoma. When she returned
home, she worked actively with the employees of the Ute Agency on the Pine River.
Because of her language skill and mastery of English, she often served as interpreter at
the Agency. On one memorable trip, she accompanied a Ute delegation to a meeting in
Washington, D.C. None of this work caused her to lose her interest in the common
affairs of life on the reservation. Back home she was one of the best cooks. Everything
we ate was home-grown or hunted out of the wilds. She dried and canned our food for
the winter. I can still remember washing all those old Kerr jars."
"My dad, Juan Pena, a Tewa Indian from Nambe Pueblo, came into the San Juan
country to work in the fields when he was just a teenager. Mother met him when he was
herding sheep for one of my great uncles, 'Talion' Spencer. After my parents were
married, they settled up in the Redondo Valley west of Cat Creek above Pagosa
Junclion where my mother had an allotment of land. Dad built us a log house chinked
with mud. He was a good farmer, raising crops of grain and hay and managing our flock
of sheep. My parents conversed in English and Spanish at first, since neither one knew
the other's Indian language. Dad soon learned Ute, since he was around so many
Utes."
"When my older sister Gennevive and I started to school, Dad moved us to a house in
Pagosa Junction. Mrs. Zabriskie taught all 8 grades. I attended only two years in
Pagosa Junction. The next year my sister and I and Curtis Cutthair and several others
were sent to the Indian School at Santa Fe. The trip was by narrow-gauge railroad with
an overnight stop in Antonito. Since I was only 6 or 7 years old, you can imagine how
scared I was. I was deathly afraid of being sent away and never coming back.
Personnel from the school met us at the Santa Fe depot with a stage coach pulled by
mules. Everything about the Indian School was OK except it was just too far from home.
My mother died while I was away at school. From then on I helped lake care of my little
brother every summer. Vacation time at Pagosa Junction was a delightful break from
school. We fished and swam in the San Juan and hiked in the woods. About the only
time we ever went to Ignacio was at ration time. That was an all day ride in a wagon and
then a long wait in line. We were issued fresh meat, coffee, flour, sugar, etc."
"After finishing 10th grade at Santa Fe, I stayed in the dorm north of town and attended
grades 11 and 12 in Ignacio. In 19361 finished high school and started working in the
accounting office at the B.I.A. with a lady named Rae Mills. She began to teach me the
bookkeeping I used for so many years. Before 1936 almost all business and money for
the tribe was handled by the B.I.A. This began to change in 1936. That year we began
to credit income lo our own accounts, but we still did not write our own checks. About
this same time I married Ramius Kuebler. Ramius was a bus driver for the B.1.A. and I
continued my work. We had three children, John, Theda and Lawrence. We got our
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back to work with the books. My years with the Tribe from 1936-1972 were mostly spent
in the finance department, but I also worked part of the time on the Tribal Census with
Millie Daniels, in Property and Supply with Harold Turner and in the irrigation
department doing typing. In 1974 I got a job as secretary at the SUARC Program and
only recently retired from there. "
"Now that I'm home, I spend my time taking care of my grandchildren, Michele, Kathy
and Cedric and I read my books. I love to read. I have read all of Louis L'Amour's books
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"My father, Juan Pena, will celebrate his 99th birthday in May. I am thankful to still have
my father."
"I want everyone to know I enjoyed all the years I worked for the Tribe and now that I
have extra time, I will be glad to serve the Tribe in any way that I can."
Shelby Smith, April 1981

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�FRANK PADILLA&#13;
Frank Padilla was born at La Jara, New Mexico, (near Cuba) in&#13;
1903. His parents, Jose R~fael Padilla and Alcaria (Mestas) Padilla,&#13;
had three older children when Frank was born. They are Beatrice, Amalia&#13;
and Cleotilde. The Padill~ •s moved to Arboles, Colorado, when Frank was&#13;
one year old. His father worked for the D. &amp; R.G. Railr.oad building&#13;
track~ His foreman was a. Japanese man~ The 11 extra gang",as the Japanese crew was known, created quite a stir of interest since most of the&#13;
local people had never s een Orientals before and had certainly never&#13;
seen anyone eat so much rice.&#13;
·&#13;
Frank says he attended school at Arboles f'Jr one year, then went&#13;
to college at the sheep ca~p. Sheepherding was Frank 1 s life work.&#13;
Many of those years he was employed by Salvadore Rodriquez, an uncle&#13;
of Fred Rodriquez.&#13;
Except for a few trips to Grand .Tunctio11 and Utah and one memorable trip to Los Angelos, during which he missed a bus connection and&#13;
toured all over Pueblo and Denver, Frank has spent his whole life in&#13;
the Arboles/Ignacio area.&#13;
Frank has never been married. During the interview we teasingly&#13;
asked him -whether he had ever had any girl friends. He set us in our·&#13;
places by replying the only lady he is i11terested in is the Virgin&#13;
Mary. Frank's devoted religious faith is well kno~m in this community.&#13;
If the people of Ignacio were asked to name the person who is the best&#13;
neighbor in town, I a.Iil confident Frank would be one of the winners. For&#13;
many years Frank has taken care of the grounds at the Catholic Church.&#13;
Since moving to one of the senior center apartments, he has watered and&#13;
hoed all the flower beds and swept and cleaned the walks and the parking lot. Every spring Frank visits both the Catholic and the non-Catholic&#13;
) cemetaries to search for any untended graves. He removes the weeds and&#13;
cleans every grave which appears to be neglectedo In his daily walks&#13;
bet-ween Ignacio and the senior center he picks up and disposes of the&#13;
litter a.long both sides of' the highway. All these tasks are perfor~ed&#13;
without thought of pa:rment and apparently without any resentment that&#13;
others do not hel p.&#13;
For the se r easons 1~e are pleased to honor Frank Padilla as our&#13;
senior citizen of the month. He is a responsible, dj_gnified resident&#13;
and has set an admirable example for the rest of us to be a friend and&#13;
neighbor to our whole community.&#13;
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Shelby Smith&#13;
&#13;
�Don and Jayne Lyday and son Chris spent a couple . of weeks in&#13;
this area the last of August~ They were overhauling their cabin&#13;
property north of Durango and their cabin and trailer below the&#13;
Vallecito.&#13;
Monday evening they visited the R.H. Gardner home and a few&#13;
friends who came over to say, 0 Hello 11 • They spent the night with&#13;
Vic:tor and Dolores Atencio. With the Lydays was their daughter&#13;
Pam and her h~sband Sal Paduano. The Paduanos left early Tuesday&#13;
morning for their home in Ozone Park, Queens, New York.&#13;
The Lydays attended services in both Allison and Ignacio and&#13;
greeted friends. Labor Day afternoon they visited at the Ignacio&#13;
Presbyterian Church annex with friends.&#13;
Tuesday they left for their home in San Clemente, California.&#13;
Both Don and Jayne are teaching and five year old Chris started&#13;
kindergarden.&#13;
A young couple from Indiana was going to try roughing it at&#13;
the Lyday property north of Durango which is reached via the Durango&#13;
Silverton train.&#13;
The Lyday family lived in Ignacio from October 1959 until 1967.&#13;
Don was the pastor of the Allison and Ignacio churches of the Larger&#13;
Parish during these seven and a half years. Jayne taught in the&#13;
Ignacio elementary school. It was while the Lydays were here that&#13;
the new Manse was built.&#13;
From Ignacio they moved to Salt Lake and then to Ca.lifornia.&#13;
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First time grandparents this August are Tom and Beverly Wiseman&amp;&#13;
Their granddaughter, Jennifer Elizabett, was born early in the morning,&#13;
Sunday, August 26th to David and Gretchen Gremer of Arvada.&#13;
Mrs. l,J'iseman left later that day for the Gremer home to spend&#13;
ten days with the new parents and Jennifer.&#13;
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*********************&#13;
It was moving day this Septe:nber for John and Marianna Glass&#13;
fron their home in Durango to their new home in down to~n Colorado&#13;
Springs.&#13;
On Saturday evening, September 15th, Mr. &amp; Mrs. Glass were&#13;
honored with a f areu.1ell party at the home of Dan and Mary Shaughnessy.&#13;
A few of their longtime friends were invited to come and wish them&#13;
well with their new venture.&#13;
Mr. Glass, who retired several years ago, was a Soil Scientist,&#13;
with the Bureau of Indian Affairs for 30 years.&#13;
The last 18 years before his retirement, were with the BIA at&#13;
the Ignacio headquarters.&#13;
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�The George BryGn family added a- new member to their family this&#13;
fall, who will make her home with them. this school year . She is&#13;
Rosa Hinojosa, a Rotary exchange student , from Los 1:ochis, l~e;-: ico~&#13;
Rosa graduated from high school in Los r-Iochis and is now a senior in&#13;
the Ignacio high school and will braduate with the class of 1980 .&#13;
She is 19 and had never been in the United States before coming here&#13;
to learn Lnglish. Rosa 1 s plans are to a t tend law school after&#13;
graduating from I . H. S .&#13;
George and Charlene and Treva who is also a senior, and Tod are&#13;
all en joying getting acquainted with Rosa.&#13;
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Virginia Richi~ond had a birthday cook - out dinner Friday,&#13;
September 7th for her husband, Jim. It was suppose to be a surprise&#13;
and was until the evening before. Hamburgers, hotdogs and the&#13;
trimmings with salads and b alrnd beans with a birthday cake fr om&#13;
Baskin Robbins was served to about 30 people.&#13;
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The Pah-Chu-Chu-Wa Club met for their first meeting of the year&#13;
Monday, Sept ember 10, 1979 at the Presbyt erian Church annex.&#13;
Heinie Gardner gave a reading abou t teachers and presented each&#13;
teacher and s ubstitute teacher present . an apple.&#13;
She ·then introduced&#13;
guest speaker for the evening Eula Ma e Morris who gave the history of&#13;
music , which was very interesting .&#13;
Nina Smith joined the group.&#13;
Olive Dillon and Heinie Gardner served r efr eshment s .&#13;
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Happy Homermakers Extension Club met Friday, September 14th&#13;
in the home of Gail Klusman .&#13;
Members a nswering roll call answered by g1V1ng a canning hint.&#13;
1'•-femb.ers · will be attending_ the Di s trict meeting in Durango&#13;
&#13;
October 8th.&#13;
&#13;
Phyliss Lee, County Extension Agent gave an interes ting program&#13;
about canning.&#13;
Refreshments were served by Ga:l.l Klusman and Nona Roberts .&#13;
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State Old Age Pension for Persons 62-65&#13;
If you are 62 63 or 64 years old, you might be eligible f or Old&#13;
Age Pension becaus! of a recent court ruling. Th~ co~rt recently ruled&#13;
that the 35 year reside~cy requirement is u~cons~itution~l. _Welf:re&#13;
departments at county court houses may star-c taking applications ... or&#13;
11 early" pensions in October .&#13;
~f you think rou are eligible send us&#13;
your name and addres s and we vn.11 keep you 1.nforr,:ed about developments•&#13;
Our numb~r is .i.~J-4561&#13;
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in Durango. 247-3224&#13;
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�The Fr:i.endship Circle meet:i.ng ·wa.s Wectnesda.y Afternoon~ September ;th&#13;
in the P:.:_"esbyterJ.aT, Church a.t~1ex~ Circle p:resident M~s. He:i.nie Gardner~&#13;
was in charge of the bus:Iness meeting,,&#13;
·&#13;
11&#13;
If God, The Healer,&#13;
uas t.he lesson topic p:;.~esented by Mrs .. Ann&#13;
Foreman under Family Illnesses an.d Hectling a,s decri bed in the many&#13;
instances listed t!:lroughout the B::Lbleo Probs.bl;~r the best knmm is the&#13;
story of Lazarusn&#13;
Refreshments were scl"ved by the hostess~ Hrs~ Elizabeth R:i.gginG&#13;
The meeting on the J.9th was sched1Jled for a. Wor•l;;: meeting and&#13;
the project is sewing laprobes which w~ll be given to patients in&#13;
the Rest Homes~&#13;
Mrs~ Riggin and Mrs~ Gardner• attended the group plar,ning sess:1..on&#13;
for the year on Thursday the 13th i.n Dt1rango&#13;
Presbyterial ·will be in the Durango Presbyterian Church on&#13;
T!:iursday afternoon and all day Fr.iday with the Igns.cio Circle assist1ng~&#13;
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It was a }fapp;y- Birthday to Mrs~ Hazel Brake the afternoon of&#13;
August 30th as a few of her friends and neighbox·s called with cards&#13;
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and gifts to wish her well~&#13;
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'f.he surprise l'Jarty was a:;:':ranged by :Mrs" Thelma Wright a.nd. she&#13;
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brought along the birthday cake.,&#13;
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Hrs,. Brs.~!'.:e who had been hospitalized in Aug1Jst with a broken hip&#13;
fi.,om a fall is cont:Lzming to recover 2,nd glad to he home&#13;
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:,Jed:end. g1Jest;J at tt:e horns of t✓.crs ~ Char.lotte Jones were Dcuglas&#13;
ar:6. Agnes Go1~man fi•or:J_ J,f1ssion, Ks,nse.s ~ After S0!:10 sightseeing a:::--~mnd&#13;
t01m ancl the Vc:,J.l.ec::i.to Lah':e area they left l;~onday, August 27th to&#13;
contim1e thejr ea!lrpi:'.'.lg trj_p to Boi:se 'J Idaho ~ Nine yea:r·s ago the Gorman&#13;
family 1;·acationed at th-2 V2.llecito, so t hey saw a .few cb.a.nges ther·eo&#13;
In Bo::i.se they went on a camping trip ·with thei1' daughter, .Teariette&#13;
Gorman~ J"eanEitte works with the senior citizen progr:s.m in Boise"&#13;
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Mrs$ Olive Dillon \-ras a:-.,.-;ay from home three vmeks in August~ Her&#13;
first stop was in Boulder to visit her son, Clinton 2.nd family&#13;
She&#13;
then visited fr:tencls 2 ..nd relatives i.n Kansas and Nebraska~ Wh:Lle in&#13;
Kans:-'s she attended the class reunlon of h.eI" high school graduating&#13;
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elass in Esbono&#13;
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In Neb2:aska one of her stopping places was in Red Cloud&#13;
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with rela·:.:J.1~:,;s~ Red Cloud \78.S the home of Willa Cather:i Pu1:1.tzer Prize&#13;
winning novelist~ M:rsG Dillon i.ncJ.uded t!'le Wi1la CE-.\ther Museum on her&#13;
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list of places to see~&#13;
She returned rwm,~ Saturday~ September lstQ&#13;
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BIRTHDAY&#13;
Lucy Duran&#13;
Pauline Rod.I'iquez&#13;
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ijatividad Martinez&#13;
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Henry Rivera&#13;
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Charlotte Jo1:1es&#13;
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,;oe Williams&#13;
Maria Manzaneres&#13;
Fred Luce:co&#13;
Jt.:l:'Lan Garcia&#13;
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�Houseguests \•7ednesd.ay :i1ght at the home of Mrs o OLtve DilJ.on&#13;
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were Ruben and Dor othy Rinker from the Sunrise Trading Post A:rizonao&#13;
The Tradi ng Post is near W5.nslow.&#13;
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Mxs. Rinker 5.s i-1rs. DiJ.lo=i!s daughte r. -Jo:tn:i.ng them for d5.n.ne:r&#13;
· Wedne sday evening at the D:Lllo?J. home were Mrs . Roxanne Egger and two&#13;
boys from Bayfield and Chuck a nd Donna Egger.&#13;
The Rinkers left Thursday to return to J~h ej_r home~&#13;
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Quite a f ew, Ignacio, Allison area residents attended the 39th&#13;
annual meeting of La Pl ata Electric Saturday a f' t er1'loon 5 September 13th&#13;
in the Exte:isi on Build1ng in Durango.&#13;
Joh..'1 Murphy was sccretm. / of the m.8eting and the 1978 minut es&#13;
showed 156 co-op members attending and ove r 14,000 consumers for the&#13;
yea!'.&#13;
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For the Sept0mcer 1 5th meeting 200 even were pres ent and the&#13;
number of consumer services for the::- ]979 yeFJ.r was 15,572 as of September.&#13;
\rfayne Lunt and Bruce Fassc•tt represen t La Plata El e ctric Beard of&#13;
Directors on the Board of Colorado-Ute lUectric . Bob Brown of Montrose&#13;
a director of Colorado-Ute was present .&#13;
Harvey Catchpole 1•1as c l1airman cf thE· mee t ing&#13;
A number of reJ:orts were presenl9tnd Hugh Chastain , r::.ana.ger of&#13;
La Plata Electric, gave a repor·c on the yea r's actiYitiese He n.cted&#13;
t.hat the new headoue.rters in the Bodo Industrial Park we:"e under&#13;
construction . REA members were invited to vis:i.t t he ne1:1 site. Wi"1en&#13;
co~plete d the n e~•1 REA building ·will be n uch larger than t he presE'nt&#13;
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Geo:·ce and J.fo.ry Brown, fcrm8r Allj_s on res i dents. It [,1a.s been 35 years&#13;
since she had be~n in tr..&lt;;; ;:•_:,:·eB. a.nd s he had a l•1ondc:?.' fu l time.&#13;
The ,ve..l ter C'a':'lsons a.n&lt;l Udell Gardens had seen ter in i·lashington.&#13;
State on tc0ir 1975 trip.&#13;
Before g&gt;ing on ;;m L.~.s . 1li~sor1.; J a y, a I grn:1.c·~o h jzh gradl."'.a.te,&#13;
attend€ci one year ut J.Y.U. in Provo.&#13;
Sep-cemb~r f:i.r3t he 1-.1ent haclc to Provo to ~-m.roll for h:1.s so~1hom01·e&#13;
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�ROY WllLIA.MS&#13;
Roy Hancock Williams was born in a teepee in the Florida River Valley&#13;
near the present site of the La Plata Airport on. August 8th, 1899._. His&#13;
parents were Price Williams, a Southern Ute, and Marie Capote from the&#13;
Nortnern Ute Tribe.&#13;
11 My parents kept sheep, hoI"ses and some cattle _&#13;
,&#13;
and moved around to find&#13;
good pasture. We always came back to the Florida. The river bottom was_&#13;
a good place to raise potatoes and corn •. . The whole area had d_eer and other&#13;
game. There was no hetter river than the Florida. It ~as clear and full&#13;
of fish and turtles. While I was still young, my parentsbuilt a two-room&#13;
frame house in the river bottom. We had good neighbors. Nicholas and&#13;
Peter Eaton lived nearby. It was a very good life. No boundaries and no&#13;
fences. We could go to the high mountains or to the valleys to find pasture&#13;
or to hunt without anyone to tell us no. 11&#13;
11 When I was ten years old , my parents sent me to the bearding schocl&#13;
at Ignacio. It was pretty bad there at first. I snake only Ute. After&#13;
a while l began to learn English from the other chiidren. I liked the&#13;
holidays when I could ride our horses and be free. In the suI!'.l!Ilers I herded&#13;
the sheep fpr my Dad. 7here was goo~ hunting around the sheep camps.&#13;
I shot my flrst doe when I was 16. Borne of the bucks we got were so heavy&#13;
we had to cut them up or carry them on a horse. 11&#13;
11 I donrt go to powwows any more, but I liked them when I was young.&#13;
The tribe used to put on a real show. There were different styles of&#13;
dancing, more than now. The Bear Dance was always the first dance of the&#13;
season. In the 1920 1 s the Sun Dancewas started here. I think it came from&#13;
Oklahoma.'!&#13;
ur went only to 5th grade at the boarding school. When I quit, I&#13;
enrolled at the country school at La Posta for a while to learn Spanish. 11&#13;
"In 1918 I was ready to enlist in the army to go to the war in&#13;
France, but before I got in, the war ended; so I traveled around working&#13;
at different jobs for a while. In 1920 I got to visit rny grandfather,&#13;
~ames Capote, in Ft. Duchesne. He told me many things about the Utes,&#13;
but I have forgotten most of it. My father died in 1921. Soon afterward&#13;
we built a house north of Ignacio. I ~orked at the Indian Agency for many&#13;
years plo...:ing and running the thrashing machine."&#13;
Roy married Labrara Radea. They had one daughter, M~ry Suazo.. Later&#13;
Roy married Mary Bean. Their children are 1-fary Santisteven, Vonnestine&#13;
Eerrera and Eileen Weaver.&#13;
Roy remembers seeing automobiles around Ignacio as early as 1913, but&#13;
h~ never owned his own car until 1939 when he bought a Mercury. He says,&#13;
11 We had a good life after the Second World War.&#13;
I had a good job and&#13;
also made money raising sheep and cattle. We owned seven different cars&#13;
and did some traveling around. 11&#13;
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Mary died in 1961. The only one of Roy's brothers or sisters still&#13;
living is Belle Cutthair. Recently Roy moved from his home north of&#13;
Ignacio to one of the apartemts at the senior center. He 1s now 79.&#13;
His vision is f air and his hecring' is excellent. He says, 11 I never&#13;
thought I'd live this long, but here I am. 11&#13;
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�Mrs. Lousia Hartig had company during the Labor Day Holidays .&#13;
&amp;re from Denver were her gra.nddaughter, Marsha and her husband, John&#13;
Johnsen and his pa.rents , Mr . and Mrs . Joe Johnsen. Thursday and Friday&#13;
predeeding Labor day Mrs. Hartig ' s daughter, Lucy Ainsworth, Franes&#13;
Shaffer and Virgi~ia Staun~on stopped enroute to Telluride to spend&#13;
Saturdz.y and Sunday over Labor Day 1.1.'1.th the Burbridges. Martha&#13;
Burbride is Nrs. Ains worth 's daughter and 1•!arsha's twin sister.&#13;
The 7isitors als o had t he ciiance to admire Mrs. Hartig's new&#13;
home in t ~e Senior Citizen Center .&#13;
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September visitors from Hamburg, Germany are having a wonderful&#13;
time. They arrived on August 30th for a month in the U.S.A. The&#13;
visitors are Mrs. Giesla Self's sister and her husband, their&#13;
daught er and her husband and 18 months old son. Besides visiting the&#13;
Leroy Selfs and families the visitors also went to California to tour&#13;
Disneyland . The only one who does speak English 1s Gisela's niece and&#13;
she had s o~e difficulties with native expressions.&#13;
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Don and Rosalie Knight are ~oving to Rangely, Colorado. The&#13;
Rangely gas fi eld i s a l arge one and Northwe st Pipeline Corp. has&#13;
transferred ¥...r. Kni ght f r on t he I gnacio Gas field to Rangely.&#13;
The Kni ghts moved to I gnacio 13 years ago. The Ignacio Gas&#13;
field was then El Paso Na t ural Gas Co. and the Knights lived in one of&#13;
the El · Paso homes. When Northwest bought out El Paso the Ifnights&#13;
bou2ht t heir home whi ch_ i s now for sale.&#13;
- The Knights 01.m a farm near .J:Sayf ield and they :plan to come back&#13;
so~eiay and live on this farm.&#13;
For t he pa s t five years Hrs. Knight has been the Ignacio High&#13;
,School secretary . She· bas also been a member of the Ignacio Presb-,terian&#13;
church sess ion and t he secretary.&#13;
Yi.r. Kni ght was an active member of the Ignacio Lions Club&#13;
and during the 60 1 s served as Club President.&#13;
The Knights two older daughters have married, but their two&#13;
children attending t he I gnacio Schools are movingwith ~hem to Rangely.·&#13;
They will be missed, but best wishes go with them to their&#13;
new home .&#13;
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---------------------------}!:rs. Olive Dillon left Tuesday, ·August 22 for Red Cloud, Nebraska&#13;
as her brother W. B. Blain was seriously ill. He died a short time&#13;
later.&#13;
Mrs. Dillon then visited a f ew relatives in the Nebr. Kansas area&#13;
before going to Boulder. She stayed a few days with her son Clinton&#13;
and family., coming home on Sunday, . the 17th.&#13;
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club tor assistance with the State Convention.&#13;
was in Cortez this year.&#13;
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The State Conventio:;-..&#13;
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Guests present at the Sept. 11th meeting were: .A:m.y and Larry, Pat&#13;
deKay, Del.la Quintana, Natt1e Silva and her son, Mr. and Mrs. Du~e Schiarad.&#13;
Refreshments were served by Mrs. Gardner and Charlotte Jones.&#13;
&#13;
The Sept.&#13;
Salad Supper.&#13;
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25th meeting program will be the Guest Night and&#13;
&#13;
A shower honoring bride-to- be, Beverly Manzanares, was given&#13;
SUnday afternoon, the 17th, in the church annex . She received a number of .&#13;
attractive gifts for her new homP. . Refreshments were served by the&#13;
hostesses Della, . Ha.ry, Lena, and. Barbara Atencio&#13;
Beverly is the dauther of Mr. and Mrs.· Frank Man2:anares of Durango.&#13;
She is to marry Raymond Atencio, the son· of Hr. and Nrs. Freddie Atencio.·&#13;
The wedding will be in the St. Ignatius Catholic Church.&#13;
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Spending a couple of week s here in August withb.is daughter, Ann&#13;
and family, t he John Forem.ans , was Henry Herron of Vandalia~ Missouri.&#13;
The Fore.mans daughter Mary Lou, also came home with Hr. Herron. Shehad spend t h e sumn:er with her g randfather and worked for the same ·&#13;
construction company tbat he once did.&#13;
Mary Lou is now busy with j unior year studies at the University.&#13;
Kathy and Jane Foreman are students at CSU ·&#13;
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of Missouri in Colm:ibia..&#13;
in Fort Collins .&#13;
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Ignacio young peop~e go in various directions as they take off fo~&#13;
college. Larry Wiseman who worked most of the past year at LaPlata Air&#13;
Field is now enrolled in the college at Rangely, Colorado planning to&#13;
continue in aviation.&#13;
Andy Duran was :in San Jose, Ce.lifornia for two or three weeks with&#13;
his son, Chris bett er known as Corney. As he was on his way home by&#13;
bus his wife Lucy was on her way to California on the plane. She is now&#13;
back home after a couple of weeks visit with the California Durans.&#13;
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It r~ally would be an unpleasant surprise to come home from the&#13;
postoffice and the store and find a couple of young girls busy putting&#13;
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things in a sack, now wouldn't it?&#13;
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�Mrs. Irma Calico from Verona Missouri is here v.1sit1ng her sisterin-law Lois Hazleton and other relatives.&#13;
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Chairman Leonar d Bur ch and Council members. Eddie · Box Sr. , Neil Cloud,&#13;
Guy Pir.necoose j r. , J oe Mestas and J ohn Bake r t ogether with Se cr etary&#13;
Vida Peabody, Renee Baca : Ma r tha Myor e, Annabell Eagl e , Jeffery and Jin&#13;
Jeffer son are all a t tending t he National all American I ndian Con.f erence&#13;
at Pineridge, South Dakota .&#13;
Chris B2ker stayed behind to man the Office.&#13;
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY&#13;
Lucy Dura.p&#13;
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Bradly Smith&#13;
Joe Williams&#13;
·Vickie Ri der&#13;
Pauli ne Rodr i que z&#13;
Cresildo Pacheco&#13;
Christine Hunoz&#13;
Be~1E..b. Bison&#13;
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Bertha Sandoval ··&#13;
Maria Manzaneres&#13;
Natividad Martinez&#13;
Henry Re-v era&#13;
Fred Lucero&#13;
Charlotte J ones&#13;
Margaret Sil va&#13;
Alberta Bis on&#13;
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On Friday evening September 15, 1978 , Shel by, Liva, Editb.:".Burch,&#13;
Mar gar et Wi seman , Ruby Hailey, Char lottee Jones and Flor ence Self&#13;
a ttended the dinner at the new 55 plus center in Dur ango . After dinner&#13;
Mar garet ~ B"Jby were pr esented with awar ds as volunteer wor kers of the&#13;
Title VII nutriti on progr am.&#13;
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Ca therine Ma ster s is cooking at t he Senior Citizens Center this&#13;
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week, while Freddi e i s gon·e to Carlsb -:.d t o be with her sick sister.&#13;
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Cat herine is doing an excellent j ob. Helpi n g her wit h the cookiµg&#13;
is Ce cil Pi nnecoose another new empl oyee at t he center.&#13;
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·- -------------------------Get Well Wishes&#13;
Toby Valdez&#13;
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A1vin Knight&#13;
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Emily Taylor&#13;
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. Allen Smith&#13;
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Adeliqa }&lt;(...a.n..z anares&#13;
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Charles Hunter&#13;
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Carmelita. Casias&#13;
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Rosemary Red&#13;
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Roy Groves&#13;
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The Happy Homemakers Extension Club members met Friday, Sept.8th&#13;
1n the new home of Thelma Wright. The ladies attending vere taken on&#13;
an admiring tour of the Wright ho,me.&#13;
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The business meeting was conducted by the Vice President, Nadine&#13;
Ford. Guests present were County ~ension Home Demonstration Agent&#13;
Phyi.lis Lee, Tribal Extension agent, Eileen Wasserbach, Virginia&#13;
Schoser and Renee Coffee.&#13;
Members were reminded to brin~ cotton quilt blocks to the October&#13;
meeting so vork on a quilt can begaE...&#13;
Carmen Rea reported she still had JO Extension High Altitude&#13;
cookbooks' fo.r sale at three dollars apiece . The cookbooks were on&#13;
sale during the county fair and received many compliments.&#13;
The art work in the cookbooks wcls al1 designed by Ignacio Club&#13;
member, Laverne Klusman.&#13;
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The . pr ogram was arranged by Mrs. Ford. She introduced Mrs.&#13;
Schoser, l ongtime Durango elementary teacher. Mrs .Schoser and her&#13;
husband, .?rank, traveled in E~r ope , for thecost part in Germany and&#13;
Austria. !-tc. Schoser located the town in Austria where his father&#13;
had lived.&#13;
It was quite interesting and Mrs. Schoser was thanked for giving&#13;
the program.&#13;
Refreshments were served by Mrs. Wright assisted by Mrs. Coffee.&#13;
The Coffee family had recently moved here from Arizona and Mr.&#13;
Coffee is employed on the Wright ranch.&#13;
The October meeting, the 1 3th, will be at the home of Modene&#13;
Mayfield. Roll Call topic is - What is your favorite g1£t to give?&#13;
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----~----------------The tirst fall meeting of the Pah-Chu-Chu-Wa Club was Monday&#13;
evening, September 11th in the Presbyterian Church annex. Club president&#13;
Violet Sams conduc ted the business meeting.&#13;
The bpys and Girls state delgates, Larry Quintana and Arr1.y deKay&#13;
gave reports of their week of stud7 of C'i ty, state and n a tional government·.&#13;
Both said these ex,eriences were ~ery worth while. Larry was honored at&#13;
Boys State by being elected Planning Connnissioner - this included the&#13;
Banquet and Talent Show.&#13;
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Amy said 360 girls attended Girls State, she was elected dog catcher&#13;
.and was also S~'t of Arms in the Senate.&#13;
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The progra~ ~~s arranged by Heinie Gardner. Duke : Schiarad, _&#13;
candidate for the nomination in the primary runoff for sheriff, spoke&#13;
to the group telling of the work of the sheriff's off ice and his&#13;
quali.fications.&#13;
Thank you letters were read from the District President, Mauriel&#13;
Luellen anq the state president , Vivian Christensen thanking the Ignacio&#13;
&#13;
�. Mr. and 1-f.rs. Lester McCoy and son moved the last of August to&#13;
a place s.ome 10. miles east o.f Ignacio. They bad been living · 1n the&#13;
termer Paul Shannon house. Both McCoys are employed in the lgnacio&#13;
School System.•&#13;
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-Two of the employees at the Sen:!.or Citizens Center have recently&#13;
resigned and moved away.&#13;
EY~ 0 1 John who lived in one 0£ the cluster homes and helped aut&#13;
answering the phone andother rece~tionist duties is now living in&#13;
Denver with her two children Cecilia and Cavanaugh Jr. Eva is confined&#13;
to a wheelchair since an auto accident a number of years ago. · She has&#13;
enrolled at Denver Corrmrfmity College taking secreterial courses.&#13;
Eva also made place mats and did other craft work. She moved to&#13;
Denver the last of July and her many friends wish her well.&#13;
&#13;
Margaret Silva's last day at work at the Center was August 18th.&#13;
¥...argaret was the Secretary for the Southern Ute Se~ior Citizen project&#13;
since the begiru:d.ng in l972 in a~wn town Ignacio on-Goddard avenue.&#13;
It is an orchid to Ea..rgaret as she now only did the secreterial&#13;
work, but also doubled in outreach, with the cooking, driving the van&#13;
to Durango and where ever needed.&#13;
Her cheerful nersonality is Eissed around the center.&#13;
Hargaret and her t~,o daughters have noved to Montrose. She reported home that Hope was in school and liked it fine.&#13;
The new girl at the desk with that pleasant voice on the phone&#13;
is Phoebe Cloud. She too can be found helping with the cooking, delivering&#13;
meals and driving the van to Durango. It is nice having her around.&#13;
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The Thoughtful Years, the senior citizen newsletter does travel.&#13;
Dick and Heinie Gardner sent the August newsletter to Betty Briggs&#13;
Clifton and her husband, Jud in ?ortland, Oregon. The Cliftons wrote&#13;
now much they enjoyed reading it and especially the story by Shelby Smith&#13;
on Rev •• R. J. Hasstedt.&#13;
The Briggs far:nly lived in Allison and attended Sunday school and&#13;
church while Rev, Hasstedt was their oasto:r.&#13;
Betty sent the newsletter to her- sister Alice Briggs Knitter&#13;
husband Jim and their children. Both Betty and Alice wrote the Gardners&#13;
how much they enjoyed the hoI'1etown news. Both the Cliftons are teaching.&#13;
Alice planned to send the newsletter on to her sister Jessie Briggs&#13;
Cornwall and her husband Forest in Billing, }Io!ltana.&#13;
Jessie is e~ployed in a Fabric Shop and Forest is very busy&#13;
with the Billings Symphony and private lessons. Before moving to&#13;
Montana they lived for a nll!llber of year.s in Gunnison.&#13;
The Knitter family live in 1'-tllwaukee, Wisconsin. So it was 11 Hello"11&#13;
from the Briggs sisters to family and friends in Ignacio.&#13;
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That is what happened earlier this month to Virgin!:! Russell.&#13;
The two girls had gotten in through a win(low and had taken ice cream and&#13;
carrots out the rerrigerator as well as a stapler, a hos of sta~les,&#13;
· 11tt1e notebooks, flashlight , a fluffy kitten decoration and put them in&#13;
saak •&#13;
. The girls around nine or ten ~ad skipped school. Mrs. Russell&#13;
asked them to put things back where they found them and the girls did&#13;
and left. Later the to'Wil marshal ~~s notif16a and started investigating ••&#13;
&#13;
Mrs. Virginia Lunsford was in Denver in August and stayed with&#13;
her daughter, Kay and her husband, the Serights. She returned home August&#13;
28th.&#13;
&#13;
The new Cluster ho~es at the Senior Center, one and two bedroom&#13;
units have been conpleted and the new residents have been moving in.&#13;
E~ar Parrett and his daughter, 1•.:Z-s. Hildred Leonard moved into one of&#13;
the new two bed.room units in August.&#13;
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They are not newco~ers to Ignacio, although, they have made their&#13;
home in Farcington for na.ny years.&#13;
Toe Parretts moved to the Southern Ute Agency in Ignacio in 1930&#13;
when they were transferred from Fort Bidwell, California.&#13;
Mr. Parrett was the Agency Farner for some 11 ,-· ears. He is now&#13;
getting reacquainted with some of his fo~er Ut e far.ner friends.&#13;
~·frs. Parrett , Lillian,. was t he seamstress. Back in the 30s the&#13;
Indian children coming in fro~ the reservations to attend the Ute&#13;
Vocational School lived in the dor!:!.itories.&#13;
Their clothes - shirts, dresses etc.were !:lade by Hrs. Parrett&#13;
and her helpers. When a new blue ciress was sewed for one of the Dorm&#13;
girls they all wore new blue dresse3.&#13;
~he Parrett 1 s daughter, Hildred attended Ignacio grade school and __&#13;
high school. In 1933 after her marriage to Jack leonard t hey moved&#13;
to Farmington. The Leonards are parents Qf three sons - Teddy a lieut.&#13;
Col. in the army in Hawaii and Bob and Jack both living in Albuquerque .&#13;
Edgar and Lillian were transferred to the Navajo Agency at Shiprock&#13;
around 1941. In 1949 Hr. Parrett re t ired froo the Indian Service and they&#13;
moved to Farmington. Hrs. Parrett died in 1959.&#13;
The past few years Hildr.e d has oade her home with her father. Now&#13;
they are back in Ignacio to live and enjoy seeing former friends.&#13;
&#13;
Mrs. Freddie Narti.n moved in Sentember into one of the new one&#13;
bedl'oom homes in Center Cluster ho~es~ Hrs. Hartin is the Capable&#13;
cook for the 1itle VII ~eals served by the Center.&#13;
She. was called away Friday i5th to be with her sister who is&#13;
seriously ill.&#13;
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Albuquerque visitors Saturday, September second were Ruth and&#13;
Bob Ne her and F'rances Lacy. Along with Bol&gt;• s uncle Jack !foher they&#13;
spent t he day fis hing Lake Capote without much luck. The Bob Nehe~&#13;
st-ayed with Charlot t e Jones. They left e-arly ~unday morning to return&#13;
to their homes . Bob drives for ifavajo truck line·s and had to repor·t&#13;
back to work early Sunday afternoon. ·&#13;
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The fi~st fall meeting for the Fr~endship Circle arter July&#13;
and August vacation was on the sixth at t he Presbyterian Church&#13;
annex with seven circle members present. Circle president ~'..rs.&#13;
Heinie Gardner opened the meeting. The lesson was from Luke with&#13;
Mrs. Ann Forecan as moderator.&#13;
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The meeting on the third Wednesday of each month is a work&#13;
meeting and plans are to start working on a quilt on the 20th&#13;
I&#13;
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Following the lesson refreshments&#13;
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Patrick.&#13;
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were served by Mrs. Grace&#13;
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Helen Hoy, daughter of the for~er Agency residents, Ben and&#13;
Frances Hoy, graduated from high school this past spring in Cortez.&#13;
During t he summer she worked on the archaeological site on the Ute&#13;
Mt . reservation . She plans to continue with this work for a year&#13;
the~ ~o to college . She plans to become a.n archaeologist.&#13;
Helen was visiting friends in I gnacio the latter part of&#13;
August and saying goodby to Carol Ellison.&#13;
Ev erette and Audrey Ellis on left the week of August 20th to&#13;
take their daughter, Car ol, to Dul uth, Minn .) Where is s he now&#13;
attehding college. The Ellisons also visited relatives i n ~-rinn.&#13;
befor e returning home .&#13;
Carol expects to study toward becoming a Medical Records Librarian ••&#13;
&#13;
Mrs. Joyce Brown and her two daughters, Traci and Stenhanie&#13;
drove from ~heir home in Dallas arriving her ~ugust 20th to. visit&#13;
her mother, r~s . Christine Callison for a few days. They left&#13;
the 24th tc r eturn to Dallas ¥.rs. Callison going with them.&#13;
Mrs. Brown's husband, Don , was in Evansville, Indiana where&#13;
he had accepted a position and was looking for a home for his family&#13;
Joyce and the girls left for Indiana and Mrs. Callison went. to Las&#13;
Vegas, New Mexico to visit relatives. Then she went to Albuquerque&#13;
,;rnd wes met by a number of relatives and they all enjoyed a good&#13;
visit.&#13;
Mrs. Callison'~ brother, Carl Beis~an and his son, Gary&#13;
from Las vegas brought her home and stayed a couple of days to visit&#13;
the Claude Callison and so some sightseeing.&#13;
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�MAX and ELLEN" WATTS&#13;
¥.ax Smith Watts was born in a teepee cal'!lped in the Pine Valley nea:r&#13;
La Boca, Colorado in 1894, the son of Andrew and Cecilia Watts.&#13;
Max says-, 11 My father 1 s band, the Capote Band, traveled a. lot in those&#13;
days. Some of them were far~ers, but most of them moved around for good&#13;
hunting and the teepee uas the right thing for being on the move. There&#13;
were very few white men around in those days. We hunted for deer and rabbits&#13;
and herded our sheep and goats. Our games were made to give us skj.lJ.. We&#13;
would throw round targets into the air and shoot them before ·t hey came down.&#13;
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I rnaae my own fishing pole from a willow, some string and a needle bent into&#13;
a hcok. We all had horses and depended on them for all our moving around.&#13;
Hy grandfather told me of a tiI!le when he was young that there were few horses.&#13;
He knew of some of our people trading a child for a horse. They were valued&#13;
so much when they were scarce. The Utes always liked horse races. Because&#13;
the road across the river was long and straight, we bad our races there. 11&#13;
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1.fy peop1.e were not surprized when the white man brought.the train. One&#13;
of the old l!l.en had seen it in a dream. He told his people that one day&#13;
white men would cor1e in a thing with smoke and fire. I never rode the train&#13;
· until I was nearly grown. I was scared of it. }Tnen it came up the valley it&#13;
~ooked like it was coming straight at me. I would run. 11&#13;
Hy parents put me in the BIA boa:z;-ding school for a few years, but&#13;
when I got old -enough to herd the goats they needed ne at home. We had&#13;
some J.a:nd over on the Piedra River and moved back and forth to it. We&#13;
:played many garc.es; some for fun and some for gambling. One was played with&#13;
big nails and a pile of dirt, The nails which had numbers painted on the~&#13;
-..,ere pushed out of sight into a pile of soft earth. The players took turns&#13;
poking a stick into the pile to expose a nail, They got points according to&#13;
the numbers on the nails. The women watching the game would sing and dance&#13;
around the pile to try to make the earth fall. Blankets, horses and noney&#13;
were gambled in this game. We also had a game like the white man 1 s horseshoes only we used flat rocks which we would try to throw near or into holes&#13;
dug in the ground. 11&#13;
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By the time he was 16, Max was on his own. He worked with the crew&#13;
which built the irrigation ditches. His pay was $1.50 per day. Euterpe's&#13;
father, John Taylor was his boss. A few years later he went to Buckshin&#13;
Arizona, to work in the cornf·ields. Before the co:-n was ripe, Eax was&#13;
put on guard to shoot the blackbirds out of the fields. In harvest time&#13;
he harnessed the horses every morning and helped with the picking.&#13;
I always came back to Ignacio when a job ended. After a few years I got&#13;
a job working at the agency. Until I met Ellen House I had no thought of&#13;
marrying anyone. Why get married with no money in my pocket? 11&#13;
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Ellen remembers, 11 Max started sending me boxes of chocolate. Sometimes&#13;
there would be money in the boxes. We were married in 1925 at the court house&#13;
j_n Durango. I was born in 1907. My mother, Fannie House, died in the flu epidemic of 1918 when I was 11 years old. Daisey Eagle 1s my half sister and&#13;
I had a brother, Danny, and a sister named July9 Both of them died in accidents on horses. 1-fax and I lived in a house near the agency until 1934, when&#13;
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we moved to the farm near La · Boca. We lived on the farm where Rose Watts is&#13;
no~. At that time there was an old house on the farm built of posts. Later&#13;
we bo12ght the land on the hill where we still live. It 1 s good ground up there&#13;
with a spring nearby."&#13;
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After Max quit the agency, he worked for the D. &amp; R.G.W Railroad with&#13;
the crews that cleared the track of snow in the winter. Since Max was a&#13;
cook's helper, his job was not too hard. The others had to use their shovels&#13;
if the snow plow could not remove the drifts. The crew worked at Red Cliff&#13;
and at Soldier's Summit in Utah. The crews slept in box cars. It was very&#13;
cold.&#13;
In 1955," Ellen says,"we built a new house on our farm. 'When we were&#13;
strong, we raised sheep, horses, grain, hay and all our vegetables. I still&#13;
have 9. big garden. In the 30' s many ho1boes came up from the railroad tracks&#13;
and ask for something to eat. I always gave theq something. So many poor&#13;
people were traveling around then. I think a farm is the best place to live,&#13;
because even when· thexe are no jobss farmers have work. We sold potatoes&#13;
to the BIA School and horses to the Navajos. We never liked cows, but we liked&#13;
to keep goats and make cheese from thei1" milk. We I re st_ill on our farm and&#13;
we don't want .to live anyplace else. 11&#13;
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The Watts had seven children in all: Colleen, Ed, Lula, Ellenetta,&#13;
Crystal, Jerry and Eunice. Only Colleen, Lula and Crystal are still living.&#13;
Shelby Smith&#13;
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�The for~er Kathleen Shields who lived in I r;nacio as a girl was in&#13;
Ig!1acio in August to l ook u p any old friends who Dight still live here and&#13;
to see t he Presbyte rian Church where she had attended Sunday school. At&#13;
that t i r;1e it was a l~e thodist Church .&#13;
She now l ives in Texas and coming with her was her husband and two&#13;
granddaughters. They all enjoyed a visit with Hrs. Vida Ritter .&#13;
The Shiel ds had a ranch north of Ignacio and also managed the hotel&#13;
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whi.ch '.)urn ed d m,m a t a l ater date.&#13;
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i:athleen Shields re sidenta de Ignacio an'o s pasados su esposa y dos&#13;
nietas veni eron a Ignacio en Agosto aver la i glesa donde ella fue a&#13;
(Sunday S.chool).&#13;
Tar~bien visitaron con la Senora Vida Ritter. Ahora ellos viven en&#13;
Texas .&#13;
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"Gertrude! What 110:;e you been saying&#13;
to these plants?"&#13;
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l·~s . Ella Flack's daughte!' l,:argaret and her husband, the Glen Rows es&#13;
arrived t he fir-st of Se-ote □ber for a week 1 s visit ·with l-:rs. Flack and&#13;
other· relatives. &gt;rr-s. Flack returned to 1-;'eb:raska f or .a week ' s visit wi t h&#13;
ther:J . She r eturned home via Frontier .&#13;
La hj_ ja de la Senora Ella Flac~½ 1-~argaret y esposo Glen Rowse de&#13;
Nebraska Yisitaron con ella por una ser:1ana aq_ui en Ignacio y cuar1do&#13;
r2gresaron a su casa se la llevaron a que pasara otros dias con ellos alli.&#13;
The Good Old Days - Xancos had those kind of times too as well as&#13;
did Ignacio . Fern Ellis in her book of t he early days of Mancos, "Cone&#13;
Baclc to my Val ley" , records this recollection.&#13;
A new bridge was built across the river in tmm in 1905 and the town&#13;
, had passed ordinances prohibiting livestock t o be turned loose to roam at&#13;
will in t he to'\im .&#13;
In 1895 a town ordinance was passed agains t fast-riding and driving .&#13;
It s eemed to be an almost daily occurence for s everal young men of the town&#13;
to ride in and out of to,m as fast as their s teeds would carry them, almost&#13;
as if they were hurrying for a doctor or escaping f ror.J an officer.&#13;
There h2.d been complaints that ladies crossing the streets ·were havi ng&#13;
their live s endanger ed by these young horse racers • .After a rain, the&#13;
flying mud increased the fun for the boys and et1brassment for the ladies .&#13;
ifou boardwaLJ.cs were laid down through tm,m which was a great help to&#13;
pedestrians , especially in wet weather . By 1909 ce?:ent sidewalks had been&#13;
i nstalled around the business section. Iron r ings were placed in the sidewalks at places for folks to tie their horses while shopp ing~&#13;
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�Hr. and Ers. Walter Hardy were out of town rao s t of Septec ber. They&#13;
were staying at t heir son 1 s ho1:1e at the Valleci to while the Harold Hard1rs&#13;
went travelin g a broad.&#13;
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Senor y Senora Walter Hardy pas aron el me s de setiembre en Vallecito&#13;
en la ca sa de su hijo Harold Hardys quen fue a paseo.&#13;
The John For emans made a quick trip leaving home the 25th of August,&#13;
They first t ook their daughter, Kathy to Fort Collins to enroll f or&#13;
fr eshman studies a t CSU. They then went on to Nevada, Hissouri wi th Mary&#13;
Lou who is attendj_ng he r secon d year at Cottey College.&#13;
Senor y Se11ora J ohn Ji'or eman llevaron a su hija Kathy para Fort Collins&#13;
donde ella a t ende r ·a la uni ver sidad por prim.era ves, y fu eron a Ne vada,&#13;
I•lessouri donde su otra hija i-~ry Lou atendie Cottey College su segando&#13;
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The first f all meeting of the Pah-Chu-Cbu-Wa Club was lfo nday even ing,&#13;
Sep tember 1.2 at the howe of 1-.~rs. Virg inia Richmond. Hrs. Vivian Rich!Oond&#13;
was the co-h ostess.&#13;
The progrB.Il was in char ge of Ers . J annie King . Jane F oreman and Dale&#13;
1-~c Clanahan t old c f the ir week long ex per ienc es a s delegates t o Girls State .&#13;
Both young people wer e in last yea rs ' I HS junior cl a s s and the Study Club&#13;
helped to sponsor theo . J a ne attend ed Girls State a t CU in Boulder&#13;
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The bus iness neet ing wa.s conducted club president, Hrs. Sheryl&#13;
1-;ayfield . T.h ank y ou l e tters were 1·e ad fr o::::.t the Colorado Heart Associa tion&#13;
f or the club help during Heart ~cnth and f rom the Men's Club for a cont r i bution t owa r d a sprinkler s ysteE1 for t he I gnac i o Ceme t ery .&#13;
Cancelled stamps will be a club proj e ct a gain t his year ,&#13;
'l'he annual t eachers '.l'ee. wil l b e spons ored by the cl ub. Both parents&#13;
a n d t e a chers a r e ur ged to come an d enjoy t h e afternoon. The Tea will be&#13;
on 'f:eclne sciay oc-~ober f ifth fro;: 3: 30 to 5: 00. The place to b e ahnounced&#13;
l ater.&#13;
i•i.rs . A.rm Foreman and Hrs. Jean HcClanahan , Jane and Dale were gue sts.&#13;
Hefresl~ ent s were served by the hos tesse s .&#13;
'.i'h e nex t meeting , Septec.:.ber 26th uill be a Salad Supper a_r1d guest&#13;
n:i.c;llt.&#13;
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�Two bus loa ds of tourists were overnight guests at Pino 1Tuche Monday&#13;
evc:nj ng J,.ugust 23r d ~ They arrived in tir~c for dinner and were having a&#13;
delj ~.l1tful tiue . It was a 23 day tour from l'fow York and New Jersey and&#13;
they vere h e au~d t oward hoi.le .&#13;
Company this month at the home of Hr . and Nrs . Karl Hauret included&#13;
1'om a."ld Shir ley Fish of Farmington who had supper at the Hauret home .&#13;
1'he a f ternoon of the 17th Mrs. E. O. Westbrook of east of t own spent&#13;
the af t e rnoon visiting . On the 19th Hr. and Mrs . J ames Jackson froo. Rio&#13;
Grande land in Durango were lunch gu.e sts .&#13;
Karl and Eda Hauret a.re enjoying getting acquainted with a new little&#13;
gray :poddle which was recently given to t hen. ·&#13;
Senor y Serfora Karl Hauert a-11 tenido r:Jucha compc:ni '1 este mes.&#13;
Tom y Shirley Fish de Fa rming ton, :nuevo :r:ejico tomaron la sena con&#13;
ellos. El dia diecisiete la Senora E . O. Westbrook poso la tarde&#13;
visitandolos y e l dia d iecinueve Senor y Senora James Jackson de Durango&#13;
to:::aron el lonche con ellos .&#13;
Forner Ignacio school superintendent Hillia.m Powell and Hrs. Powell&#13;
wer.e in I gnacio several days staying at Pino Nuche and visiting friends .&#13;
i•iost of their visit was suent with the R. H. Gardners . l·fr. Gardner was&#13;
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hi gh school principal while lrr . Powell was the superintendent . They left&#13;
here the first of Sentember to r eturn to their hone in Plattville.&#13;
Senor y Senora ~Till.iam Powell visitaron ~r.u.gos en I gnacio. El fue&#13;
superintendente de escuela s aqui anos pasados y ellos pasaron casi todo el&#13;
tiernpo con Senor y Senora R.H. Ga rd.~er ouin era urinciual de la escuela&#13;
al ta durente el tier:ipo que .e l Senor Powell era superintendent . Ellos vi ven&#13;
en Plattville, Colorado ahora.&#13;
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Hrs. Lena Witt was a houseguest of her sister, EI's. Narga.ret Hisena."1&#13;
, for a wee k and a half. They called on oany of l:Irs . Witt's f or.i:.er Ignacio&#13;
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nei 6 hbors.&#13;
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\Iednesday evening the 14th s h e was hostess for dinner at Pino l'iuche&#13;
for t he D2n Shaughnessys , E~et Hotts , 1'irs. 1-;axine Anderson, l1rs.&#13;
Charlott e Jones, i•:rs . Ruby Hailey and Hrs. Wise:1an .&#13;
Hrs. \'li tt returned to her home in Denver, September 18th.&#13;
Lema Wi t.t pa so una ser.-:ana y rr.edia con su hernana i.fargaret Wise::1a.n .&#13;
L~s dos visitcu:on con muchas de los .e.mi gos y vicinos de la Senora \'!itt, ella&#13;
vivto en Ignacig_ por r.:ruchos a-nos . El miencoles llevo a Senol"' y Senora Dan&#13;
iSl:aughne ssy, Senor y Se:fora Enr=iet Hott, :.:&amp;.zine And erson, Charlotte Jones ,&#13;
Rub:,,- Hailey y 1.;argaret Wiseman a com.er al Pino nuche .&#13;
The Happy HoI'.uem.akere Extension Club members met at the home of Hrs.&#13;
r•loden e ifa_yfield, Frlday a fternoon, September ninth. 1·11's. Hildred Sparks&#13;
uas a.ssistant h o stess.&#13;
Roll call top:Lc 1-ms 11 Hy Horst Job 11 , and :c1embers told of . some rather&#13;
hectic ev ent s .&#13;
A 1:S:1ow and Tel1 11 proE;:r.·am followed an a f i l m 1rA Trade For Living 11 on&#13;
nu.tri tion was shm·m. The ·1 iln uas courtesy of the home e comonics teacher,&#13;
~,:_'.:'S. Barba.ra Valker o&#13;
Club p:resident, ~{rs . Garmen Rea conducted the busine ss ~eetine . Ther e&#13;
\'n s a discussion of t he district Achieve □e n t Day on October fourth at the&#13;
L!t:Xtension builci:i.ng and cor!!:li ttee s were a ppo i nte d by I-irs . Rea.&#13;
Favors are to i:&gt;e 1:iadc f or Christ~e. s g ifts for the Hur sing Hoces. A&#13;
c;e, ,-..":'!.i ttC'e on t 11c favors c onsists of !·J's . Hon a Rober t s, Mrs. Vivian Richmond&#13;
and ~-.rs. Vir 6 inia Rich::i.ond.&#13;
Lach r:.e?'!ber is to nake two quilt bloc ks 8 inche s by 32 inches . The&#13;
qu i l t uill be:: :'.'·ade as a club project to have on hand fo r a tin~e of need .&#13;
l•.i'5 . J ea11-'1ie StottleL-i.ycr and !·~s . Becky Breneman are two new members.&#13;
'.file next r,eeting is schedule d f or Cctob cr 1i+th.&#13;
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Sanen Prontol&#13;
'.I.'onetle Baca&#13;
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Owen Callison&#13;
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1-fo_rtin Hayes&#13;
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Jim 1{atthews&#13;
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Perry Heath&#13;
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Laurence .Marker&#13;
Jose Quintana&#13;
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John Chavez&#13;
Emelerio Lucero&#13;
Eileen Weaver&#13;
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Frances Buck celebrated her birthday, Saturday September 10th with&#13;
a small party at her ho~e with the guests bringing along a pot of coffee&#13;
and a pan of Brm•miE;s. Wj.shing F1:ar1ces a Happy Birthday were Hrs. Heinie&#13;
Ga:edner, l,:r-s. Lena \'Ji tt, Hrs. 1-~argaret 1:·Tiseman and Ers •. Charlotte Jones.&#13;
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Frances Buck celebrcf sus cum~le~?ros el sabado dia diz con un party.&#13;
Sus amigas las Senoras Heinie Gard..rier Lena Witt, 1-~aragret Wiseman y&#13;
Charlotte Jones llevaron cafe y brownies y celebfaron con ella.&#13;
'.l'l1e AARP bus trip fro~n Duranbo on Seutenber 20th f5_rst went to Gbost&#13;
Ra.nch, ?Te-i.-r 1-iexico fo1· di:ri...ner. Then the group went to Santa F e for an&#13;
afternoon of sightseeing and shopping.&#13;
They then returned to Ghost ra.i.7.ch for ove:rnig;:it, co!:1ing back Hednesday •&#13;
.Ax.1ong those going were 1.:rs. Olive Dillon, t::rs. Opal Price, l~s. Charlo tte&#13;
Jones and l.fr. and l-tr s • Paris Engl er.&#13;
Hore than 200 friends of the Rev. Ted and l-frs. Harer helped them&#13;
celeb1·ate their Golden Wedding armi versary on Sunday afternoon, Sept .18&#13;
fl·c the Ca.lvary Presby-teria.."1 Church in Bayfield ,-.ri th church l!!e□bers fron&#13;
Ign&amp;cio, Allison and Florida helping to host the event.&#13;
'?he Ha.1·ers uere ;:~arried July 3, 1 927 in Liberty, Arizona. For 1 5&#13;
:,:-ears the Harers ·were missionaries in Guatar:mla. In later years 1-Ir.&#13;
Harer served the churches of the Parish and also Presbyterian churches in&#13;
Cor·tez. For a time they :.:1ade their home in Bayfi.elde They now live in the&#13;
Valley no:c&gt;th of Durango.&#13;
ljas d.e doscientos 2.~igos le ayudaro:o. al Rev o y Senora Tod Harer a&#13;
celebrar sM a.ntveTsa.rio de cincuenta ruios el dor.1ingo en la tarde dia&#13;
dieciocho de setiembre en la iglesia Presbyteriana en Bayfield.&#13;
Ellos se casaron el dia. tres de Julio Bil nuevecientos viente y siete&#13;
en Liberty, Arizona. y por quince anos fueron .misioneros en Guatamala.&#13;
}~½ora ellos vivin en Durango.&#13;
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The fi:rst of the 1-.reek of Septe:a.ber 19th Owen C2.llison 1'.ras very ill in&#13;
--~eI'c:,r Hcspi tal. His daughter, l•:r&gt;s . Joyce Brom1 of Dallas ·was here for a&#13;
t i ::.e and then went hor:1e. She r eturned a short tioe later to be 1:ri th her&#13;
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pare1:ts.&#13;
Joyce Brown de Dallas Texas esta aaui en Ignacio con su mama durante&#13;
la enfer;::;.edad de su papa O,;-ren Callison. ~&#13;
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Callisto Luchini 82, died Saturday September 10th at his home in&#13;
The Lucru.nis had lived on a ranch in Allison for the past 50&#13;
years and this November would have celebrated their 50th wedding anni~&#13;
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Luchini came to the F'lorj_da Mesa area in 1 903. He was born&#13;
He r::arrie·i!. Catherine Procarione&#13;
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4 ~ 1 895 at Brookside, Color2.do o&#13;
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2JcVE::1::.ber 1927 in AJ.lison~&#13;
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Surviving are his ~ife, Catherine, a daughter, Margarite Carlson of&#13;
Lewi::. of Allison, several sisters and other&#13;
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,,\J.b'..:iqee:rque and a son,&#13;
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Services were the 12th from the Allison Grange Hall by the Rev. Donald&#13;
Castoneuay of St. Ignatius Catholic Church~ Burial was in the Allison&#13;
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�The f t rs t f a ll me e ting of the Friends hip Circle was Wednesday afternoon, the seYcnth , in the ?resbyterian Church annex . l•:rs. Heinie G8.rdn,e r,&#13;
CircJ e prcsirlcnt, conducted t .h c busfne s s meeting . An invita tion WRS re coi ved&#13;
to a1..tcnti the DistrLct Presbyterial in Cortez , Thur sda y a nd Friday , the 22nd&#13;
and 23rd . S~veral Circle memb3rs planned to attend on Thursday afternoon .&#13;
thn Cjrcle js to hold a P~ke Sale t he latte r part of Oc tober. The&#13;
t)(➔r:1be rs wil l not spons or a . R1.i.mmage Sale this yea r.&#13;
The study period w:as from Second Corinthians with Hrs. Arin Foreman as&#13;
the leader.&#13;
T:ef re s1unents "t-1ere serv·ed by the hos tess, Mrs. Bessie Pennell.&#13;
l•~ary .Fl'a nc. i.s Taylor f rom. California is here in Ignacio visiting her&#13;
E.other Floy Val de z, her daught er Parr.ela , her siste r Eva and Many other&#13;
r sia t ives and f ri ends.&#13;
He.ry Fr ancis 'I'aylor d e California e s ta vis i t ando a su ma:c,.a Floy Valc_ez&#13;
a su hija Pa:uel a su h ermana Eva ya otros parientas y amigos .&#13;
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Feliz Curupleanos&#13;
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Lucy Duran&#13;
1fargaret Silva&#13;
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Pauline Rodr iqu ez&#13;
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Brad Smith&#13;
Joe Wi l liams&#13;
Bertha Sandoval&#13;
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Henry Rivera&#13;
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Cri s ildo Pache co&#13;
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Silviano Lucero&#13;
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Christine Zu:1oz&#13;
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dri\·in:,! 1nc· -.:r~.1.y~'~·,l r.•. LiJJ ,~r ,..:r!!h: ''1." LJlv~. u,n \&#13;
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?T:t•r~ \•;.:~~ne.:~:- ·. ·:: ~:-~ n!! ~&#13;
~ying lc:$.:=ci~~:-=. :~·,,c~ n :..!iL· ! :·ta~ int}~~. ?~rl,r,n_'~&#13;
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The small railrMd v::.s :;;:1:(•tts&#13;
for i,s in:-;~1;lity l(1 'r.(•,·r lO lhc t'llb-&#13;
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lished sehedi.;le. On.:- mo:-;.ir~g:&#13;
;:. h~!"i 1.r.~ 6 o·t:(,'-·k train nt;Ht..C int(\&#13;
Si..:i.ic,:i r.t t'XHth· Go'clo~•;.: . a&#13;
frequ&lt;:-ni. i'?..;csEc nger· ;; pp;oad~ e:d&#13;
the rngi nE-er.&#13;
"Ha,·"' 2 duir'." he- ;;hc,ute-d. " J\·e&#13;
hl•Cm riding- ~this line fv:· :20 ,·N:r:;&#13;
:,nci ~his i;;~thc- .iir.,.-! dr.h: l\·e· s,:,c,r,&#13;
unE- r1f its 1r:.ir.s .:rri,·E· 0n time'."&#13;
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Vickey Ri a der&#13;
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Fred Luc e r o&#13;
Charlotte Jones&#13;
.!!i. small l,oy in a dt:c panr.H·!H&#13;
:;tore v:as :::, snding- by ~l-le:- c-;;,•;:.l2.1or inl('nth- w21.1:h;n;r li-,E rnr.,-_.in:r&#13;
ha n&lt;l ra i I. ' .. so:net hfn re \nr, r. e&lt;'"''&#13;
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w;.iting for my bubble g 1;m to&#13;
come hark."&#13;
«::k€!d a clerk.&#13;
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Automation : a tE-ch n ol ogica l&#13;
prCl&lt;'ess that performs ni l the&#13;
w ork while w e just :::it t he1·c .&#13;
\ \.h en we were kids. this process w as c-:tlled &gt;Yother.&#13;
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Ea ry LeFe1n·e 78 , a res ide nt cf Ignacio a nd Durango all of h e:r lif e&#13;
di e d l"riday, t h e 16th , i n l·:eTcy Hos pital . She was born June 2, 1899 in&#13;
Duranfo.&#13;
Si1e ilacl been ill for so::e tir::.e . 1:iss Lal"ebre and her sister, Sus ie&#13;
li .red i or ria~y years on south Br mming Avenue .&#13;
In :1.er ce.rlicr ·rears she was er::nl o7ed i n the ki tcben at t he Strat er&#13;
Hotel and. also wor·l-:::ed cleaning a.t St: :-:arks in Durango.&#13;
Her sistG:r , Susie 1a.i.7 ebre and sis ter , Celina Salazar of Huntington,&#13;
Utuh survive as clo other :i·ela ti ves in Ignaci o.&#13;
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Satur-clay, SeT)ter:1ber 1 Li-th was a day l ong wor 1-:: project at the Pr esbySone 14 p e opl e c a.1:ie and ac c orc1plis he d s e ver2.l re pnir a ncl&#13;
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'i~1e? e n joyed a p ot 1'..1c lc dinn er i n t he a nne x at noon .&#13;
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s oOallo &lt;.~i a vio11tecua tr·o Sc?ior )r Seno1.. a Abenecio 1•~ufio z elci..raron a&#13;
SU .i d. j a Slion ci o::.l\J.G ello. a t encierf UlD.i :c Bus ine s s CoJ.l er;o c s te invicrno~&#13;
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�cur s:,--mpathy to the far.lilies of - Callisto Luchini and Mary LeFebre •&#13;
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Frank Johnson noved this ~onth fro~ Bayfield to the apartment house&#13;
on Sou th Brmming. i,;:r. J ohnson has lived in Igna cio and :aayfield in recent&#13;
yea~s and traveled soc e too . Re really is an old ticer as he says he is&#13;
106 y ears old a nd the last :ne::;.ber of his regil!lent :still living .&#13;
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Frank J ohnson sea mud.ado de Bayfield para tlna casa en avenida Brbrming&#13;
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en I gnacio.&#13;
~l dice que tiene ciento siez anos yes el ultino de su regimiento&#13;
militar que esta vivo.&#13;
Claudette Gilbert and c1'lildren l :ichele , Danny and ·ron:-r ·took a two&#13;
week vacation t o visit her :::oth er and father ~-:r. a...'1d l·xs. J ohn L. Smth&#13;
:i....'1 Gold 3ea.ch Oregon. Stopped in 3edci.i ng California· .to visit a sisteri::-law Clai:&gt; 7ona and f a-111:,- and p ic::ed u:p h er other two children v~-riessa&#13;
a:.:ti. .,:._nd:?. ?he:;· also ·..r~!'lt up to ::ou;:-it Sl1asta , Calif o:·nia to visit an Uncl e&#13;
a...nd Aunt ;_.~ . aJ1d ~.:rs. Lou i e Petro a cousin 1:arr 1Lrm KiI~gston a..-rid s everal&#13;
n i eces a:""lc. rev~-iews. Claudette als.o took a side trip to Reno nevada a.."ld&#13;
La~:rn Tahoe. -&#13;
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Claudette Gilbert y facilia ::ic1)ele, Da21.ny y 11:'ony pasarc n do s se!::J.ar1as&#13;
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-eac·n Orec-f"'l&#13;
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:,- 3e::o:ra 3cri_11 s~i t.h, E:n rteddi::1g, California. a una- cunada Clair ·I ona y&#13;
fa:..:.::..lia ? le\f~:i.:1to a sus ot::-os :D.jos L':.o..y ~- Venessa ,q_:...en pasa::.--on el ver~o&#13;
all:. co:c1 su papa. i:.!1 :nunt Shasta, California vi.sita:·ori a sus tios Se::.10r&#13;
-,- SE..:io:-a Louie ?etro su o::-i::a :_ar:,- _t,_:....'1 I:~i:.~gsto:1 y r.:uchos so·orir:os y&#13;
so·orinas. 'Ia~oien :.:-ueron a Reno :-- Lake Ta.hoe Ifovada.&#13;
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1~r . and ~-:rs . Rober t Ol bert a!lO. children spent Sunday , August 28 with&#13;
his mother , i:rs. Geneva Olbert and brotner Phil. The y now live at&#13;
Blootiielci, Hew 1:exico.&#13;
Se1Tor y Senora Robert Olbert de Bloor:..field, Nuebo 1-:ejico pasaron el&#13;
docingo agosto viente y ocho co:1 su c.a::ia Geneva Olbert y su heroano Phil.&#13;
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Eldred Vi gil j r. , a 197 5 I gnacio high graduate who joined the Hari ne&#13;
Crops tha t year is now a ~:arine Lance Corporal and has r eported for duty&#13;
at t he Jell River 1.farine Corps Air Station Eelicopter in Jacksonville , North&#13;
Carolina .&#13;
Llcired is the son of lJ-s . LaVeta Vigilo-:: I gnacio .&#13;
i,ldred Vigil Jr . graudarite de la escuela alta en I gnacio el&#13;
197'5&#13;
es al1ora ~-:arine Lance Corportl en !few Ri.ver 1-: a!'ine Corps Air Station_ y&#13;
::elicop ter en Jacksonville , iforth Carolina. Eldred es hijo de la Senora&#13;
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La-Veta Vigil .&#13;
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Robert Klu s::1an had Open Heart Surgery, Thursday, August 25 at St.&#13;
Li2::ss Ho!rnite.l in DenvE:rv He is now l:o:-1e and i:::proving in health .&#13;
Le de .s ca:~;os unn fHpida recu:pcraciOn al Senor Robert Klus.2:!an, despues&#13;
de tcner una opGracion en el coraz,01 el esta en su ca.sa ahora.&#13;
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�Er:.I'e from Irew Jersey for a week were Stanley and Leora Potter who&#13;
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St&lt;lnJ.s:r 5. s no-;: o~l t of t.b9 servi ce and working for a firm as a nuclear&#13;
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Acui de i\ew .;el'sey por una .sen:ana visi tandc a su mama la Seno1 a ..c.~·,ort !k'l&#13;
Pott er -fuero~1 S tanley y Leora Po tter. Ellos tambif.m tienen . rm~hos a"ros&#13;
Uiil'io!: te-s q-.:.2 visitr;.;1 c u a~~c!o vienen aqui. Stanley se . a ret 1.r a.oo de e l&#13;
;~ jercito 1::ilitar y su tr abajo es Ni.1clear Physicist.&#13;
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Hela tives co::,ing to visit with 1':rs. Virg inia Russ ell t his month f or&#13;
a s hort t :U.;e we re ?-:arian. and Daniel Pres ton f ro::, Anchorag e, Alaska. The&#13;
Pre.s i·.ons h a d be en in Det:e oi t . to gt~ t c2. new c :::u-:,rsle r. !frs . Pres ton is a&#13;
[!'eat neice of i ~ s. Hussell I s . 'Ihey also went to see her g!'anc12other , !&lt;rs .&#13;
Mary Perino on the Florida ~e sa~&#13;
Also vi sit:i.~ g l:i·s . Ru ssell just about the sarr;e time was a neice , Kr s .&#13;
Carme r , her son and d.a.ughter-in-la;.; from Virg inia.&#13;
?arientes v isi ta:1do a l a Serfor a Virginia Russell este mes fueron s us&#13;
sobrinos 1:.,1.r:Lan y Jani el Preston d.e Anc_orage , Alaska y otra sobrina Senora&#13;
ConD er c1.e Vi:rginia .&#13;
Craig, Colorad o&#13;
Sept 14, ·1977&#13;
Seni or Opportunity Service&#13;
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