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                  <text>Anna Mae Alires
-(Navajo)

My name is Anna Mae Alires. I was born in Shiprock, NM. I am 72 years old. I had
been in boarding school most of my life. I ended up here at the Ute Vocational School back in
1946 and graduated on my birthday in 1950. After that I worked in Durango cleaning people's
houses. Then, I got married and had a daughter, but I got divorced about a year after that. I
entered Fort. Lewis College (the old Fort Lewis in Hesperus). I lived in Durango and rode the
school bus to the college every day. I just went a couple of years there, and then I got a job at
Mercy Hospital for about a month until I applied for a job here at the Bureau of Indian Affairs
[BIA]. I was hired as secretary for the Branch of Education.
When I was going to school here it was a vocational school where we learned how to
cook, how to sew, how to be a homemaker. They boys learned farming: they took care of the
garden and the chickens, and milked the cows. In the fall they would bring in the vegetables
from the field. The girls would learn how to can. The boys would kill the chickens so that we
could learn how to clean and dress them. We learned how to cook in our home economics class.
Then, I graduated and I left. In '55 I got my job here at Bureau oflndian Affairs with Branch of
Education. I really don't remember when they integrated with the public schools. Instead of
going to school here at Ute Vocational, they started going down to the public school. We just
stayed open to let them board and room here. We took in students (Indian students) from Crown
Point area; that's in NM, and Ute Mountain. But, I enjoyed my work with Branc·h of Education.
We dealt with the children and everything, and there were some that were ornery; we'd have to
deal with them. I would have to take them home and tum them over to their parents, and their
parents would have to return them to the school. Like I say, I enjoyed that work, but then it
closed in '81, September 1981. The dorms closed entirely, and so I transferred over to Branch of
Forestry up 'til 1990. I retired from there, but while I was working for the BIA, I had a part-time
job as a dispatcher for the Southern Ute Police Department. I retired from that job on August
.-.ro23rJ~2002.

I came up here from St. Michael's in Arizona, and I really wasn't too happy there. It was
a boarding school, too. The food wasn't that great. So, when I came to Ute Vocational this gal
named Elsie Watts (she was from Ute Mountain) said, 'if you want to, you can room with me,'
because here there were two to a room. When I was at St. Michael's it was a big room with a
bunch of beds; you didn't have that much privacy. When I came here she said you can room
with me, and I went up to the room and there were only two to a room; that was really
something. And then she took me over to the dining hall. I was amazed, because the food ... I
could not believe they were serving salad, mashed potatoes, gravy, meat, and all that. It was so
different from St. Michael's. I really liked this place, because it was homier than that place. I
had fun: I was a cheerleader (Elsie and I were). And, you know Stella Santistevan? I was a
cheerleader with her sister.
I stayed, because I liked this part of the country. So, I got my jobs here and I stayed, and
all of my children were raised here. We don't know too much about our traditional way of life. I
was orphaned when I was ... When I was born, my mom died. My dad didn't want me to be
ratSed on the Navajo Reservation raising- sheep-; he didn't want me to have-a dozen kids raising

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sheep. He wanted me to get out and get educated, to get off the reservation. This German lady,
she was on her way to take a bunch of children to Good Shepard Mission in Arizona. They
didn't have any parents and it was an orphanage. My dad was late in bringing me in and she
couldn't wait, so she took the other babies. But, when she came back I was in a room waiting for
her. She never gave me up: she kept me, raised me until I got married. I was happy to have her
take me, but I was never able to learn my language or to really learn about their traditions until
later. When I was young it didn't really interest me, but now it does. I've been reading about
the Navajo traditions and the Ute culture. I'm finding a lot on the Internet now. There is a lot on
the Internet that you can read.
We couldn't speak in our native languages at the Ute Vocational School. If you talked in
you native language, you were punished (I was punished). I did learn a few words, and one was,
'shut up.' I would say that to the instructor and I got punished. They'd make you stand in the
comer or something. But, all the time that I was going to school, we weren't really severely
treated, we weren't treated harsh or anything.
At Fort Lewis I wanted to become a secretary. I studied shorthand, typing, grammar and
al that. And, then, I had to take other courses: Western Civilization. I don't remember what
others, but I just took it long enough to where I'd be able to get a job. I didn't graduate or
anything, or get a degree.
I've got three children: one girl and two boys, and they were all raised here in Ignacio. I
have got 13 grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. They're all being raised here in
Ignacio except for my youngest son's children; he moved to Cortez. That's about it, I retired and
I'm enjoying my grandchildren. I was telling my children; when I was growing up, working and
trying to raise them, I really didn't spend too much time with them. Because, they would be at
school and I would be at work, we'd do our chores, and then they'd get ready for bed.
Sometimes I took them to the movies. But, it seems like I'm spending a lot of time with my
grandchildren, and I'm really enjoying it. All parents go through that, you know? (Especially
when you're a single parent.) I've been telling my children what I went through, and I tell my
grandchildren about how it was when I was growing up. I always dept a diary, and I started
putting it on my computer. I told Tom [Anna Mae's son], 'if any of you guys are interested,
make a copy and read it.' It is a diary from when they were growing up. I would write the funny
little things they'd say. Now I'm retired, living in the Senior Center's apartments.
I had a half-sister, I didn't know here, and I knew I had brothers. When I was here in
Ignacio, at the Ute Vocational School, I found out I had a brother, and my cousin got him to
write letters to me. He couldn't speak English, so he had somebody that would write for him.
And then, all of a sudden, I didn't know what was going on. He was working in Portland, on the
railroad. Two years later, after I got married, I asked my cousin what happened to my brother.
She told me he had died in a railroad car fire. I said I didn't even know: nobody notified me.
Then I found out that I had a half-sister, and I didn't meet her until after she had children and
after I had children. There was a girl at the school here that was related to her husband, and she
came and told me that my sister is back in Shiprock. She went to school at Riverside Boarding
School. I don't remember how many years it was, but I loaded my kids up, went to Shiprock,
and found her. Her kids were-as- s-mall as- my kids-. &amp;he-doesn't know much about our father,

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because he died when I was six years old and she was three. So,she doesn't know anything
about my father. My foster mother didn't know much about my father, either. My son and I did
go down to see my cousin a couple of years ago to find out more about my family. But, she
didn't seem to know, either. She did tell us my clan name. The Navajos have clans. She told
me what clan I came from. But, I don't know any of my relatives now. One time she got me
down there to meet my grandfather. I went down to Newcomb (between Shiprock and Gallup)
and met my grandfather. But he was elderly, and he couldn't speak much English and I couldn't
speak Navajo. I remember him crying and she was translating for him. I don't know really if he
was from my mother's or father's side. I wish I had paid more attention now that I'm older.
My maiden name is Todae: on my birth certificate it's spelled T-0-D-E-A; my foster
mother spelled it T-0-D-A-E, and that's how I went. I had brothers and sisters, a few of them
died from tuberculosis; that was bad on the reservation back then. But, I didn't know them
because I was the last one born. They told me they died of tuberculosis when I was a young
child.

Interviewed by Michael G. Miller,
VISTA worker, on January 161\
2004.

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