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                    <text>MARIA (Abeyta) RIVERA
Maria, the fifth of Antonio and Josefa Abeyta's nine children, was born into an orderly
and hard-working world. Her people were sheepherders in the country near Tierra
Amarilla, N.M.
"Most of us in that lime weren't too poor and sure weren't rich. We lived in a post house.
Cedar posts were set in rows like a stockade, then plastered inside and out. The roof
was posts and sticks covered with earth. It leaked and was a mess whenever there was
a heavy rain until we could afford to put tin over it. I haven't been back there for a long
time, but we hear the house is still there and still being used."
When Maria was about three years old, her parents moved to a dry land farm near
Cabresto (up Frances Creek east of present day Navajo Darn). Antonio built another
post house and dug a well. He hit a good stream of water at 18 feet. The Abeytas raised
dry land crops fairly successfully, but the garden needed watering and the well was the
only source. Maria remembers hauling bucket after bucket to the garden. Two of
Maria's sisters went to live with their grandmother at La Puente about three miles from
Tierra Amarilla. Grandmothe(s house was a large frame house with five bedrooms.
Maria recalls, "The fifth bedroom was just for guests and was never touched unless a
guest was in the house. She had a large wood-burning cookstove, a fire place and a
heating stove. No coal was available, so someone had to chop a lot of wood."
Since there was no school at Cabresto, Antonio bought a farm near Rosa. It was much
easier to raise profitable crops on the irrigated land and possible to send the children to
school. However, Maria seldom got to attend school more than 4-5 months per year.
Two of her older sisters had died. Since the other two were living with their
grandmother, and Josefa had become ill, Maria became the cook, laundress and food
preserver for the family.
Maria says, "People talk about how bad kids are today. I don1 believe they are nearly
as naughty as they were when I was a child. Once when I was a child a group of boys
in our room tried to set the teacher on fire. The teacher was an old man and not too
observant. The boys began slipping matches under his coat collar with the match heads
protruding in a row. One of the boys behind him struck a match and was about to set
the fire when one of the students yelled and grabbed the lighted match. Otherwise the
resulting fire would probably have burned all the remaining hair off his nearly bald

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"Every winter our cellar was full of beans, peas, chicos, cheese and piles of pumpkins.
Then we had eggs, milk and butter coming all the lime. We always had enough.
Everyone who put out the effort to grow a garden had enough in those days. I think the
climate is colder now. It's hard to get things to mature."
"In warm weather all of us children were outside playing or working all the time, but in
cold months there was less to do. That's when Abuelo and Abuela (grandpa and
grandma) told us stories around the fireplace. I wish I could remember the stories they
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�told, but I can't. For public entertainment there were only a few events each year. On
the 4th of July there were races and a rodeo but no fireworks. One year someone
brought a Ferris Wheel. Nothing else; just a Ferris Wheel. It cost five cents to ride. I ate
ice cream and drank lemonade and rode the Ferris Wheel so many times I got sick and
had to go lie down at my aunt's house. Then there were the maromas. The latest
maromas I remember was in Ignacio in the 1950's. The maromas was a group of
people who made music, danced and sang and told jokes and stories. The whole
community came when the maromas were in town.

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When Maria was 25 she married Henry Rivera. His family had migrated to Rosa from
Cimmaron and Monero, New Mexico. Henry had worked in the mines at Silverton and
also worked for the railroad. The Riveras stayed at Rosa untll 1949 when they bought a
farm near Allison. Their 10 children are: Cecilia (deceased), Bennie, Mary (deceased),
Gilbert, Pete, Fred, Anna Marie, Orlando, Agnes and Richard. In addition to the children
Maria has 23 grandchildren.

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In 1956 Maria moved to Ignacio. She has worked at various jobs since then. The
children are scattered all over the country, and because of this Maria has got to do
something she never thought possible. "I have traveled all over this country. I never
thought I'd do that. The way I was raised people stayed at home. We didn't expect to fo
anywhere and we couldn't with our livestock and crops and gardens. Now I've been to
Los Angeles, Connecticut. Rhode Island and New York to see my children. I'd rather
ride a burro than these little planes that come to Durango, but once I get to Denver the
big planes are nice.

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August, 1976 - Shelby Smith

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                    <text>PAULINE (De Herrera) RODRIQUEZ
When Pauline Ruth De Herrera was born at Antonito, Colorado, on Sept. 15, 1907,
Spanish people had been living in the Rio Grande and San Luis Valleys for a very long
time. The dates in the graveyards, if nothing else, will testify to that. The old Conejos
communities of Antonito, Las Mesitas, Mannasa and Espioza still maintain a Spanish
flavor. The Las Mesitas Church with its two steeples is a striking landmark. Beside it is
the church yard where generations of Paulina's ancestors are buried. Paulina's parents
Alfred and Adala De Herrera, owned a home and small acreage near Antonito, but in
the summer the whole family headed for the mountains. Alfred was a cowboy.
"In May many farmers turned their cattle over to him to take into the high summer range
near Cumbres. Dad would drive the cattle along, sometimes as many as 500, and
Mother and all of us children followed in the buggy. We had a cabin overlooking a big
meadow. It was such a carefree life. We picked strawberries by the gallons. They were
small, but, oh, so sweet. Other days mother sent us for gooseberries. Once in the
gooseberry patch my brother Chris and I got a terrible fright. We were picking when
suddenly we came to a place under some overhanging branches where the grass and
flowers were flattened like a nest. Some of the stems were still springing up. It was so
plain we had just roused some animal (our imagination told us it was a bear.) We
screamed and threw our buckets into the air and ran. Occasionally, we took off a little
time for fishing. Our favorite place was La Laguna Azul, a beautiful mountain lake with
gold water lilies along one side. We caught a lot of fish there. Always we wanted to see
a deer, but we never saw one. I guess those mountains were hunted out in those days.
About once a month we went down to Antonito to stock up on groceries. We would
leave on Saturday and come back on Monday. Dad had two beautiful mares just for our
buggy trips. We had such a relaxed and carefree life until the fall when the cattle were
branded and moved down to the farms."
Pauline remembers one time that was definitely not carefree. In the spring of 1911 there
was a terrible flood all across Southern Colorado. Alfred was already in the mountains
with the cattle. When Adala and the children awoke that morning the fields around them
were a lake.

"There was water in every direction. My grandmother Lujan was there with us and we
decided it might be higher at her place in Las Mesitas, so mother went out and hitched
up the mares. We went through deep water, but the real trouble came when we got to
Las Mesitas Ditch (which was as large as the Allison Ditch). The bridge was washed
away and the men on the other side said, 'don't come across. The mares will drown and
so will you!' My mother was very brave. She said it was better to try than be trapped on
the low side. The mares went clear under. Mother jumped from the buggy and lifted the
heads of the mares out of the water. Finally, one of the men jumped in to help and the
mares began to swim. When we got to the other shore, we were all soaked to the bone
and crying. There was water around Grandmother Lujan's house, too; but it didn't get
any deeper. In a couple of days it went down. All our chickens were gone and
everybody's crops were ruined."

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especially in the Sun Luis Valley. Then the valley becomes a cold and windy place with
vast, drafty blizzards howling down its length. Every evening before bed Pauline and
Chris had to peel enough potatoes for the next day and place them in water to keep
them white. "Every morning the house was cold. Dad got up first to light the coal oil
lamp and to build a fire in the kitchen. Then I had to get up to slice and start frying those
potatoes. Then mother got up and made biscuits, white gravy, fried eggs and always
oatmeal with lots of fresh milk and butter."
Pauline and all the children needed a good breakfast, since they walked three miles to
school at Espinoza. Sometimes it was an ordeal. "When the weather got real bad, my
father wrapped our feet in gunny sacks and tied them to our ankles with wire. At school
our teacher would unwrap the sacks, hang them to dry by the fire, and then help us put
them back on when it was time to leave. That was all we could do because, of course,
none of us had overshoes." Pauline feels that one mistake many parents made at that
time was to keep their children out of school too much. "Some of the boys in the 5th and
6th grades were great big things, old enough to be in high school today and when they
would get restless and bad, I can remember the teachers sending them to the river to
bring their own willows to be whipped."

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Alfred DeHerrera liked politics. In Paulina's words, "He was always 'taken' by politics."
About 1924 Alfred decided to run for sheriff of Conejos County. If there was any big
money around to buy the politicians into office, Alfred didn't get any of it. He had to use
his own. When he lost the election, the family was nearly broke. To help recover the
losses Alfred moved the family to Millikin which was about half.way between Denver
and Ft. Collins where he could get farm work. "We didn't stay there very long. It was
strange country to us. Dad worked long enough to buy a car and then we headed back
for the valley. We stopped to visit someone in Salida. While we were there, Dad found a
job in a creosote plant, so we stayed and bought a home there. I was about 16 or 17 by
then."
Soon afterward Pauline met Vic Rodriquez. "Vic was one of 12. His mother was dead.
My mama tried to help those kids. She sewed and mended their clothes and asked
them in for cookies and did many other things which only a mama can do." Vic was
working on the tram line to Shirley when he turned sweet on Pauline. "He began signing
his checks and just handing them to me. Mama said I better not spend any of that
because if Vic and I broke up, there could be trouble over the money. So I put it all in
the bank."
Vic and Pauline were married in 1928. Pauline handed Vic $900.00, every penny of
what he had given to her. With the $900.00 Vic set up a saw mill at Trujillo southwest of
Pagosa. Whatever lumber wasn't sold locally was trucked to Juanita and shipped on the
train to other markets. Later Vic moved his mill to Blanco Basin and finally to Red Creek
north of Bayfield .
When the government started building Vallecito Dam in 1937, Pauline got a new job.
She started doing laundry for all the crews working on the dam. "I had a gasoline
powered Maytag that ran from 7:00 a.m. till 7:00 p.m. every day. There were
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�clotheslines stretched from tree to tree. I guess we were the first mountain laundramat. I
made about $10.00 per day. Sometimes my neighbor Mrs. Millsap would help and I
gave her half of what I made."
Pauline has good memories of Red Creek since most of the kids were raised there.
"They were good kids. We never had trouble with any of them. I guess being raised in
the mountains, they would have to be good kids. We always had plenty to do, both work
and fun. Every Saturday there was a dance. Someone brought a guitar and someone a
violin and did we dance! But no drinking. It seems like ii snowed more then, but it didn't
seem so hard on people then. We always had fun in the winter. If we needed food, we'd
hitch up a team to the sled and go lo town. All those years seem so carefree. We never
had any worries. I didn't think I ever had any worries until Vic died. We had just bought
this house and lived here two months when he died."
Pauline has seven children. All of them are married. Irene lives in Bayfield; Ernest in
Bellingham, Washington; Melvin in Ignacio; Jeanie in Farmington; Helen in Los
Angeles; Delia Rae in Bloomfield; and Mary Ann in Colorado Springs. Pauline has 30
grandchildren and 4 great-grandchildren.
A lot of years have passed, but Pauline well remembers the "Star" automobile Vic
bought to bring her to Trujillo. She remembers the frightful, narrow road over Wolf
Creek Pass and how much she really didn't want to leave Salida. "I always missed
Salida. I liked it there and didn't want to leave. And I have always missed the Italians.
They were good neighbors, nice people. All of the years we've spent on this side of the
divide I've been happy, but I never felt really at home. I always had in the back of my
mind a wish to go back over there, but the last few years I feel different. Ignacio is a
nice town with a lot of nice people. I think I belong here now."
June, 1975-Shelby Smith

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Rosita's daughter, Louise Pesata, believes her mother is in her mid-nineties, but on one
knows exactly, for the Taos people did not count the years or the days when she was
born. They told their children, "you were born in the snow time or when the leaves were
green." Any exact records of her birth were destroyed when the Guadalupe Church
burned many years ago, but none of th is counting of years and of dates is of any
concern to Rosita. What she does know is that she was born in a dwelling on the
second level of the north pueblo at Taos. The same dwelling has been her home for
about 90 years and is still her home whenever she wishes to go there.
Rosita is the only child of Venturo Romero (he died of a stroke when she was a young
child) and of Manuelita Lujan Romero, who lived until 1927. When Rosita was 6 years
old, she and many other children in the pueblo were sent to the Indian School at Santa
Fe. They were loaded into wagons and driven to Taos Junction to meet the train which
came from Alamosa on its way to Santa Fe. This particular train and route was known
as the "Chili Line." All students were issued uniforms, the principal feature of which was
a large, wide-brimmed, black straw hat. She spent three years at the school. Her
memory of those years is primarily of "looking at the books," and "playing on the
swings" and of how long the year seemed with no vacations for holidays or feast days.
After third grade Rosita attended a one room school near Taos for a while and that was
enough school for her. When Rosita was a young woman, the town of Taos began to
change from a small, but historic town into a sophisticated center for well known artists
and authors. The attraction for the Taos Valley to the artists and their wealthy followers
is evident to anyone who visits there today. Its climate and beauty and blend of cultures
is still a stimulating environment. The influx of wealthy people was a fortunate
circumstance for Rosita, since it provided her with plentiful work as a domestic servant.
It was necessary for her to work, since she supported her daughter Louisa entirely by
herself. In the course of her work, Rosita was employed by artists such as Blanche C.
Grant, Victor Higgins, Eleanor Kissel and John Baldin. She also worked for Dr. Thomas
Martin who was clinic doctor in the 1920's, and for John Collier, one of the Indian
Commissioners. During all the years of work which only ended when she retired in
1973, Rosita walked the 3 miles from the Pueblo to her place of work and home again
through snow and rain and summer heat.
At home Rosita's life was little different from the lives of her ancestors hundreds of
years ago. The pueblo allows no plumbing, electricity or other changes. Rosita carried
all her water from the river, gathered all her wood for fires in the canyons and hauled it
on her back to the village and up the ladder to her dwelling. In her spare time she
gathered food for the winter, various greens and wild spinaches, mushrooms, plums
and chokecherries to be dried. Her principal craft was the making of shoes and
moccasins. She learned to scrape and dry and tan the deer skins. One of the most
common tanning agents was boiled animal brains, which were rubbed and worked into
the drying leather. Rosita chose moccasin making because it could be stopped and

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�resumed easily at spare moments before or after working in town. Other crafts such as
pottery making cannot be interrupted so often.
Most of the people at the pueblo are initiated members of one of the clans known as the
"knife people", the "wooden earring people", the "water people", etc. Rosita is one of the
"water people". Each clan has its own initiation procedures, its secrets, its ceremonies,
its projects and its own sacred religious traditions, much of which is probably hundreds
of years old. Initiated members receive the security and encouragement of an extended
family. Both men and women can be members of the clans, and all attend some
meetings in the kivas. However, the clans are definitely male dominated and many
meetings are limited to the men. Taos people believe the preseivation of their culture is
strongly dependent upon the maintenance of the clans. Therefore, they diligently
encourage all their children to be initiated into one of the clans where they can learn the
songs, legends and ancient religion of the pueblo.
One of the efforts of the clans is to give the young members instruction and practice in
the various dances and songs as the feast days approach. The principal feasts occur at
Christmas with the deer dance, at New Years with the turtle dance, at January 6th with
the Buffalo dance. The corn dances are performed in May, June and July and St.
Jerome's feast is on September 30th.
Today more than half of the Taos People live outside the pueblos, a trend which is a
little worrisome lo the tribe. The pueblo itself was frozen to any further additions or
changes about 15 years ago. Maintenance of the ancient structures is a never-ending
task. All snow must be immediately removed from the roofs to prevent seepage and
rotting of roof timbers. Each family is responsible for its own roof. All exterior walls are
mud-stuccoed every summer.
Though Rosita is alert and surprisingly agile for a person in her 90's, a scary fall on one
of the ladders in 1979 convinced her granddaughter, Josephine Lefthand, that it was
time for Rosita to leave the pueblo. Until that time Rosita was still climbing the ladders
with her water and fuel. Presently, Rosita lives comfortably with Tom and Josephine in
Ignacio. From time to time she returns to Taos lo visit her daughter and to attend the
feasts. At home she still bakes bread and tortillas for her grandchildren. She only
recently stopped dancing at the pow-wows. When the grandchildren try to tease her into
joining the dances again, she tells them, "I've done my part. Now you do yours."
P.S. Rosita is adjusting very nicely lo using thermostats, the electric range, etc. in her
granddaughter's home.
Shelby Smith - November, 1980 (Special thanks lo Josephine Lefthand for translating
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Bessie Florine Glynn was born in Osceola, Iowa, on August 31, 1894, the daughter of
John and Antoinette Glynn. When Bessie was two years old, her family moved to
Milwaukee where they lived most of the time until she was married. John, who was a
steam shovel engineer, spent most of his time away from home working construction
jobs or strip mining in Illinois and Indiana. As a member of a union John would work one
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Milwaukee (1896-1920) was in many ways a delightful place to live. It was a big town
but not a metropolis. Bessie remembers riding the streetcars, which went everywhere
and the jitney buses (early versions of the taxi), vehicles of every description which
would transport a passenger from any point in the city to any other point for five cents.
When Bessie was old enough for school, her mother got a job as a fitter in a department
store. Bessie became interested in active sports. She enjoyed ice skating and was a
member of the girl's basketball team. "We were a good team as a rule, but we didn't do
so well when we played South Side High. They were all great big Polish girls, so big you
couldn't get under, over, or around them," Bessie recalls. The third sport Bessie
enjoyed, and the one for which she showed the most promise was sassing the teacher.
"I was never able to hold dignitaries in high regard unless they deserved it and most of
my teachers did not deserve it," stated Ma. Milwaukee was and is the beer capitol of the
world. In that time there was a saloon on every corner. "Ma" says she used to have
nightmares about being caught by a drunk, but they never succeeded.
Bessie had known Milton Seibel for a long time. He and she had attended the same
schools for years. As the two youngsters grew up and entered high school, Bessie and
Milton developed new eyes for one another. Bessie recalls being in the same assembly
(we call it study hall today) as Milton. During those endless silent hours Milton
occasionally wrote notes, folded them into paper airplanes, and when the teacher wasn't
looking, he sailed them to Bessie. The system worked well until one afternoon the
guidance system on one of the notes failed and it made a fatal flight onto the teacher's
desk. Milton, of course, was kicked out of assembly, but that was only the beginning of
his interest in Bessie. In subsequent years they dated frequently going to dances,
shows and dining out. Sometimes they would hear Fritz Kreisler in a violin concert, or
Madam Melba or Shuman Heinck. Afterwards they would choose a fine restaurant
where they ordered all the fine Chinese food they could eat for twenty-five cents .
"We didn't mooch in the back seat of a car," confides Ma, "because we didn't have a
car, but we spent a lot of time sitting on the landing of the staircase in our apartment.
The first time Milton asked me to marry him, I said 'no'. I remember it clearly. We were
reading the Saturday Evening Post." BessiE: said no that time because America had just
declared war on Germany and Milton had volunteered to go. "I didn't want to have a
baby and be left alone to raise it in case he didn't come back." Bessie and all her
sorority friends in Delta Sigma rolled bandages and knitted socks for the war effort.
Bessie was knitting at home, at work, on the streetcars, everywhere she went. Milton
was gone 22 months. He and Bessie were married as soon as he returned.
The Seibels might have spent the remainder of their lives in Milwaukee had it not been
for an aunt in Pagosa Springs who wrote glowing accounts of the opportunities of
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�homesteading and ranching in southwest Colorado. Their parents and her sorority
friends were appalled at the prospect of moving to the wilderness, but the Seibels were
both working in Milwaukee and getting nowhere, so they were excited at the prospect of
an entirely new life. They rode the train to Pagosa Springs in the summer of 1919 and
bought 160 acres of cut-over dry land 10 miles northwest of Pagosa at O'Neill Park. The
Seibels started a dairy farm, raised alfalfa and some wheat. Ma helped Milton in the
field when necessary and did fancy work for cash. When Bessie's mother came to visit,
life was still pretty rustic on the farm. There were no indoor toilets and all water had to
be hauled from a soft water spring on their place. Mrs. Glynn couldn't understand why
anyone would want to live in such circumstances, but Bessie felt then and still says, "It
was all an adventure. The country was beautiful."
Their farm was located about halfway between the ranches on the upper Piedra and
Pagosa. Most evenings some traveler would stop for dinner and would bed down for the
night. "Ma" enjoyed the company, but she did tell one rancher he couldn't come back
without his wife. "I was tired of hunting stories. I wanted some woman talk."
The first motorized vehicle the Seibels owned was a motorcycle with a side car. There
were two kinds of rides on the cycle. Rough and dusty and rough and muddy. On one
trip to the upper Piedra, the cycle bogged down to the hubs. Milton and Bessie had to
stay the night with an old bachelor who lived nearby.
Bessie had always enjoyed working in the field with the horses, but when Milton began
buying mechanized equipment, she retired to the house. Besides the boys were
growing and beginning to do their share of the work. Willard was first. Then Glenn, Ed
and Don were born.
The country schoolhouse for the area was nearby. Most years the schoolteacher would
stay with the Seibels. Some of the school marms were first year teachers and were only
18 years old. "Ma" says the teachers were very interesting people and provided
companionship and good conversation on the long winter evenings.
In 1935 Milton and Bessie went into debt $5,000.00 to buy an irrigated farm near
Arboles. It made Bessie very uneasy to owe a sum which at that time seemed so
enormous. They raised hay, grains, pigs, sheep and cattle. Bessie had a large garden
with two or three hundred tomato plants some years. There was lots of work and no
vacations until 1952 when they stopped for a few weeks to take a trip to California and
Montana and then back to Milwaukee to see old friends.
After an extended illness, Milton died at home in 1961. "Ma" is a fine lady with a
generous heart. Time has not dulled her words. She still has the same sassy tongue
she took to school in 1910. "I have a tremendous memory forridiculous things," Ma
states. If you don't believe her, just ask her for a song. Regarding work, she says, "I've
graduated, but the word 'go' I like."
Shelby Smith, February, 1974

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                    <text>MARTHA LOUISE (Miller) SEMLER
Martha Louise Miller was born near Kennan, Wisconsin, April 14, 1904. Her parents
were Gustave Alvin Miller and Wilhimina Krate Miller, both of whom immigrated from
Germany when they were teenagers. Gustave's family was fairly wea1thy. Therefore
when he got to New York, he attended school to learn English. Wilhimina couldn't afford
school when she arrived at Baltimore.
"However," Martha recalls, "my mother spoke good English with no accent, while my
dad, for all his schooling, always had a heavy German brogue."
"Both my parents were naturalized citizens within a year. They met at the Amana
Colony near Des Moines, Iowa, where they got jobs. Two years later they got married.
Dad worked in a brewery, then took up farming first in Iowa then in northern Wisconsin
where I was born, the youngest of 10. These are my brothers and sisters in order. The
oldest was Minnie, then Emma, Ann, Marie (who died at age 2), Margaret, Augusta,
Elvina, Ed, Paul, and Martha."
"Dad farmed in the summer and was a logger in winter. I remember he saved the
tamarack bark to sell to the tannery. No one ever irrigates anything in Wisconsin. Most
of the time there's too much water. Our river bottom land was like a sponge much of the
year. It was a trick to raise hay there. Only at certain times could we work and only with
oxen. They never bog down. After the hay was cut we raked it by hand with wooden
rakes with pegs for teeth. I can still remember my dad carving new pegs for the rakes."
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an ox to our buggy to deliver cream - to town."
"Wisconsin," Martha says, "is wonderful for wild fruit and nuts, blueberries, cranberries,
raspberries, etc., and hickory, hazelnuts, butternuts, chestnuts. We gathered two sacks
full of them and put them in the attic of the woodshed to dry and cure. Every fall our
neighbors cut and shipped box car loads of greenery to the cities for Christmas
wreaths. My mother taught me to card and spin wool thread when I was 10. I wish I had
a spinning wheel now. It was fun."
"I might still be in Wisconsin if our doctor hadn't told Dad mother's health would be
better at a higher altitude. Dad headed west, intending to go as far as Oregon where
Emma lived. But in Denver, Dad met Mr. Hoffman who was looking for someone to
manage the H&amp;H Ranch south of Oxford. Dad agreed to take the job for 2 months to
see if he liked it. After a month he sent for us. All that were left at home were Mother,
my 2 brothers and me. I didn't like it at first. I was accustomed to a nice home with a
lawn. I missed my friends. I attended the old, white school at Oxford. (It's been moved
to Amy McCaw's place.) I met Horace and Ralph Buchanan, the Boyce girls, Jim and
Jack Turner, John Gibert, the Hayden kids and many others. My first teacher was Myrtle
Mcchesney from Allison. Later she married Anthony Morris. Soon we moved near the
Pine River Switch to prove out some homestead land and stayed there until I was
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�Martha and Gustave Semler, whom she married in 1919, farmed near Oxford for a year
then moved to Sable Canyon on Spring Creek.
There Martha plowed with 3 horses, helped run the binder and shock and stack 45
acres of grain. Later they worked another place on Spring Creek which had regular
irrigation.
"We went to Ignacio about every two weeks for business or supplies. From Ignacio it
took three and half to four hours lo ride to Durango if you had a horse with a good
running walk."

"I remember our mail carrier, Melvin Walker, drove a wagon with a cover over it and a
stove inside. He arrived at our box at 4:00 p.m. and then had to go all the way back to
Ignacio. Arthur Capell used a car when he took over that route."
Martha had five children: Paul lives west of Ignacio; Herbert died at Fitzsimmons Army
Hospital at the age of 22; Betty lives at Olathe; Bill lives north of Ignacio; and Michael
lives at Sheridan, Wyoming. One summer when Paul was a baby, Gustave took a herd
of Arthur Jones's sheep to pasture up near the Needle Mountains. In mid-summer
Martha took little Paul on horseback to the camp. It snowed, rained and hailed every
day. In late summer she helped move the herd back to Spring Creek.
"I could pack a burro and move camp like a man, then."
The Semlers lived in Durango, Dulce, and Ft. Lewis before moving to the Chromister
Place one mile north of Oxford. This was depression time and life was very hard. For 9
months Martha milked 30 cows morning and evening.
"My hands swelled to twice their size. It was too much work, but in a depression, you do
what you have to do. I also broke horses to ride or to plow, for $25 per head. We lost
the farm north of Oxford. From then on I raised and supported my children alone. We
moved lo Ignacio. Paul was only 13, but we tried to farm the James place (where
Candelaria subdivision is located). Next we lived on the Johannsen Place at Tiffany and
ran the cream station for Shaefers. In the spring I dropped corn (planted) all day long
for $.50. The older children and I worked at whatever we could to survive. When Paul
went to the war, he sent us an allotment which made life easier."
Today, Martha has 15 grandchildren and 4 great-grandchildren lo enjoy. She has a
house full of mementoes and memories of her parents and of a life of pioneering in the
north woods and the western mountains. Martha still has spunk and energy and a
wealth of skills which she will share with others if they want to learn. She tells great
stories, many of which we don't have room to tell here.
Shelby Smith -- January, 1978

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                    <text>Ethel Smith
I was born in Collbran, CO, Mesa County, September 1i 11, 1908. I went to a
country school, one room school, and then I road three miles horseback to high school.
And, I graduated from Collbran Union High School in 1926. [After high school] I started
in school in Gunnison, CO, and I went five and half weeks. I road on the train from
Grand Junction to Montrose, and then on to Gunnison. I was homesick at the end of one
semester, so I went back to Grand Junction, and then on to Collbran in the fall. My
parents sold their property and we moved to Missouri. I went to school at Missouri
Teachers' College in Springfield, MO. My friend came down from Collbran to MO. In
the spring we decided to quit school and go to Marysville to pick strawberries. We found
out from the school that they needed teachers. So, we decided to take the teachers' exam.
The last exam was on MO history-I looked at her [my friend] and she looked at me, and
we got up and walked out.
My folks came back to Collbran, after a year in MO. I took the CO state teachers'
exam, and taught my first school north ofDebeque, CO. Then, the next year I went to
Hayden and taught at a rural school on a cattle ranch. That's where I met my cowboy
boyfriend. We were married in 1931. I taught at rural schools, here and there, for the
next eight years. Then I taught my last year of school in Uravan. My husband was
working in the mines down in Arizona, and our son was 18 months old. So I went down
to AZ, and we lived there until 1944. In 1944, we traded our house in AZ for a ranch
southeast ofBayfield, CO.
My husband was in a later draft [for WWII], but he was "frozen" in the mines.
He worked in the copper mines in Jerome, AZ. If you worked in that big copper mine,
you were "frozen" [from the draft]. When we moved to CO, then he had to get an
agricultural status or he would have been drafted.
In the fall [of 1944 ?], somebody had heard that I had taught school. And, so, the
school board came up and wanted to know if I wanted to teach at the Pink school, which
was about two miles south of our ranch. My son was in the fourth grade [at that time]. I
taught there for two years. Stuck in the mud, rode horse back. .. I taught all grades, one
through eight. One of my students, who was in the fifth grade, sent me some pictures. I
had one picture from when I taught there (from '44-' 45 and '45-' 46). She sent me some
pictures, because she went to school there in '41-'42 and '42-'43. Then, I went to
Bayfield.
There [in Bayfield] I had the seventh grade. Then they unified the districts, and
the students started corning in on buses from out towards Pagosa Springs. I had the
seventh grade for two years upstairs in the old Bayfield building. When the gym was
finished there were two rooms above it. So, I taught over the gym for nine years. You
know, the kids never paid any attention to the noise, and I never paid any attention to the
noise. There were basketballs-Bang, Bang, music downstairs (under the two rooms), but
I don't think anyone ever said anything about the noise.

�I did go to Mesa College in Grand Junction one semester, when we came back
from MO. So, I had no college credits you might say. College teachers came from
University of CO, CO State University, from Western State, from Adams State. There
were classes at Fort Lewis [College], and I just started taking classes. So, in 1957 I had a
degree: BA degree.
They paid $1,000 more in Ignacio, and we were still on the ranch. So, it was
about halfway between Ignacio and Bayfield, and I came to Ignacio. And, do you know
the story about Benjamin Franklin paying too much for his whistle? Well, I paid too
much for my whistle when I came to Ignacio [to teach]. It was the second year that
Ignacio schools had been consolidated, and the buses had started to bring the kids in. At
the end of the first week I told my husband I wasn't going back. I told the principal that I
was not going back. I had one raunchy class: over age Spanish kids. They had been
retained in the first grade, they had probably been retained in the third or fourth. At the
junior high up here, if you failed two classes, then you were retained in that grade. I had
Spanish kids (junior high) sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. Five teachers had
resigned the year before. So, I told the principal, "I'm not coming back Monday," and he
said, "Oh yes you are!" So, I went back on Monday, and a Mr. Ackerd from MO met me
at the door. He said, "I'm taking that raunchy class of yours upstairs, and I'm sending
you ninth graders that don't know enough to tie their shoes and come to school. You
won't have any trouble with them." And, I had a tough principal, I'll tell you, a tough
principal.
I was in junior high [in Ignacio] until 1961. I saw a bulletin in the teachers' room
that said there was an institute over at the University of Nebraska in Guidance and
Counseling. I had no idea what it was all about. But, I applied for it, and I had told the
superintendent that I had applied for it. And, he said, "Well, go ahead and apply for it,
but you won't get it." That [the institute] was for second semester. I applied for it and
was accepted. I called him [the superintendent] and told him I was accepted, and he said,
"You can't go unless you get somebody to take your place." I was teaching math in
seventh, eighth, and ninth grades. Jake Candeleria, who owns Candeleria Heights up
here, went to high school with my son. He came up and said that he had just finished
college at Adams State, and was wondering where Larry [Ethel's son] was. I told him
that he was working over in Mancos, and Jack said that he was desperately in need of a
job. He said, "I'm so angry with Mr. Powell (the superintendent). I went down to talk
with him, and he said that he didn't have any job for me." I said to Mr. Candeleria,
"Well, what's your major?" He said, "Math." So, I let him have my job so that I could
go to the institute in Nebraska.
That was in '61, and the institute didn't start until February. I was on my way the
last day of January, and we didn't get out 'til the last of June. When I came back, Mr.
Powell gave me the job to start a guidance program.
After Sputnik, these institutes were set up by the government in science and math.
After that ran the gamut, they thought that all of these people needed guidance and
counseling. So, the government started these guidance and counseling institutes, and

�they paid us $7 5 per week. I had no more idea of what I was doing than the man on the
moon. But, I started the [guidance] program in elementary clear on through high school.
Then I was high school counselor. The most that I did was to find out where money
came from for kids to go on to school. And, I worked a lot with minority students. I
worked with the Indian students a lot. Mr. Dietz, the superintendent at the time, called
me and said that Mr. Scott was going to take the Indian students, he was to be my cocounselor and he would take the Indian kids. Mr. Dietz told me to set up meetings with
the students and find out who wants to go to Mr. Scott; who was Navajo married to a Ute.
He never got an Indian kid, I got all the Indians and he got all the white kids. I would say
to them, "why don't you go to Mr. Scott?" They replied, "we don't want to work with an
Indian."
I retired in '74. I have belonged for many years to Delta Kappa Gamma, an
international teachers' organization. They send out a bulletin, and in one bulletin they
advertised for a social studies and English teacher at Navajo Community College. You
know, I didn't even know what a resume was. You never heard of the word "resume".
So, I sent an application in, but they hired a teacher from Canada who had had ESL
[English as a Second Language training]. In two years, shwe decided to go back to
Canada, anfd the chairperson at the college asked me to come for an interview. I was
substituting at the high school [at the time], so I didn't go [for the interview] until spring
vacation. I was hired, and was there for 20 years. Well, I'm 95 now and I stayed there
'til I was 88, I'll let you do your math.
I came home every two weeks for 20 years. And, you know, I never thought
anything about the roads, I never had a flat tire-I couldn't have changed it ifI did. I had
my first one up here about two months ago.
I have the one son, and he left school when he was a junior and went into the
Navy. His ship helped to evacuate the French when they were leaving Indochina. There
was a French soldier who had been there for seven years, hadn't been home for seven
years, and he traded Larry a gun for a can of beans. He said they were starving. And
then, he helped evacuate the Chinese-Cheng Kaichek, you know? He has a lot of
pictures. He has a picture of a little girl, who had died, and they dressed her, put her in a
chute, and buried her in the ocean. He has pictures where the ship was just crammed
with Chinese.
He went in when he was 17 and got out three years later. After he got out he went
into an agricultural program. He had a friend, who had a shoe shop, and he persuaded
Larry to learn to do shoe repair. So, Larry went to Denver (he was married then), to the
Emily Griffith Opportunity School, which is a famous school. He went there almost a
year, and came back and had his shoe shop. Then he wanted to learn how to make
cowboy boots, so he sent to Oklahoma to a junior college. He was there almost a year,
then came back. We had the shop over here where the Peddler's is located.
My parents farmed, dad was a good farmer. My dad came from the Indian
Territory in 1898. He sold his farm, and his older sister, his older brother, and his older
sister's daughter and her baby came to Glenwood Springs (on up from Grand Junction).

�In the middle of the winter they came to Glenwood Springs, and the climate is about like
Durango. I don't know how they got to Collbran, but he played the violin or he played
the fiddle, and that's where he met my mother. My mother was born in Boulder. She
was 34 when I was born. She was 28 when they were married and my dad was 37.
We can't find anything out about my dad's ancestors, because we didn't listen. I
didn't listen to my dad. And, I didn't know until long after he was gone, but he grew up
with blacks and Indians. I didn't know that after the Civil War, the blacks were
encouraged to settle in Oklahoma, to homestead in OK. But, what I remember was they
would swim in the creeks, and there was a small pox epidemic. They would line up
along the banks and keep the Indians and the blacks from going in the water. Because,
you know, then they wouldn't break out, and a lot of them died. There was an old, old
Indian who lived up from where my dad lived, and it wasn't derogatory then to say
"nigger". My dad always called him "Nigger John", and never thought anything about it.
But, the reason my dad came to CO, he had an older brother who came to the San
Luis Valley (over by Alamosa). I don't know why [the brother] came to Alamosa. There
he met a Mormon woman, got married, had 12 children over the years, and moved to
Collbran. I don't know why he came to CO [the older brother?]. But, people did move
about.
I have a book on both sides of my mother's family. All I know is that she was
Pennsylvania Dutch, but German from way back. My grandmother's grandmother, I
think it was, her husband was killed by the nobility in Germany. She escaped, she had an
older child who had come to America, but she escaped into France and Switzerland. A
single woman couldn't come on the ship to America, so she married a Hessian soldier.
But, she couldn't pay the passage for her youngest child, so he was bound out to
somebody for the passage. My mother's maiden name was Strock, my maiden name is
Barker. I joined the D.A.R. [Daughters of the American Revolution] about 35 years ago.
I can go back on either side of my mom's family: her father was a Tylson, and her
mother's side, which was Strock. But, Strock had been three different spellings: Strauck,
Strack, and Strock. So, it was easier to go back on her mother's side, on the Strock side.
My grandfather was English. I go back to the Mayflower on the English side. My
genealogy goes back to when they first came to America, and that was the first
generation. I'm about the eleventh generation, I think. There is a Tylson reunion in NY
every year. They have Larry's name and my sister's four children's names. I had one
ancestor who fought at Valley Forge, it could have been a Tylson or a Strock.
My dad was born in Coles [?] County, Illinois. His dad was a horse trader, so
they moved from one place to another. I can remember that my dad had a brother named
Red, because my dad said that he was the only redheaded one in the family. He also had
a brother who settled in MO. There was a big family in the Barkers. My son looks like a
Barker in the face: they have thin noses and faces. There are no fat ones in that family.
My grandson, Kenny, has red hair, and will be 24 on the 31 st of January [2004]. He was
born on my way to Nebraska.

�I know that this house was hauled up here in 1948 [the house was ordered from a
Montgomery Ward catalog]. Thank God that the woodwork has never been painted-this
is the original woodwork. There are doors in this house you can't believe. I think there
are about 11 doors in here.
Interviewed by Michael Miller,
Americorps*VISTA for the
Ignacio Historical Society,
December 9th, 2003.

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I blame my maternal grandparents, Edmon and Delia Throckmorton, for
provoking me to write the short biographies in this collection. Ed and Delia were true
covered wagon pioneers who homesteaded a farm in SW Oklahoma. When they
entered that vast empty land in November of 1893, there were few neighbors and the
nearest place to buy anything was the suttler's post 60 miles away at Ft. Reno. I loved
to ask questions and listen to them talk about those days. They were the most
interesting people I knew.
Interviewing the older people in the Pine and Piedra Valleys was, perhaps, my
way of bringing back those pleasant visits with my grandparents.
I was born in Enid, Oklahoma in 1938. My dad Carl Smith was an expert
mechanic and later service manager at the Chevrolet Agency. My mom, Orpha, was a
newspaper reporter and later a tissue tech working with the pathologists at our hospital.
I acquired a teaching degree at college, but the most fortunate thing that happened
there was meeting a beautiful girl named Roberta Davidson, who became my best
friend. We were married in 1963

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In 1970 we bought several wooded acres with a log home in the Florida Valley
near Durango. There we began to reenact in a small way the pioneer life of our
grandparents. We built a cellar to store the produce from our garden, learned to harvest
honey from our hives, raised pigs and milk goats and kept a colt for the enjoyment of
the children. Raising such a large garden required lots of time and help -- so much so
that on one bright, warm day our youngest, Brad, announced when he grew up he was
going to find a job in the shade. He later did so. Adjacent to our property were several
hundred acres of forested 8.L.M. land. This was our playground for hiking, mushroom
hunting, flower identifying, berry picking, snow shoeing, cross country skiing, sledding,
wildlife watching and Christmas tree cutting.
In 1975 our family grew a bit when
Roberta and I adopted a beautiful five-year-old girl from the reservation area. Annette's
mother was Gladys Reddick who had died in 1974. With her cheerful and sprightly
personality she has been one of the lights in our lives .
During most of our years in La Plata County I worked for SUCAP, as a program
director writing grant applications and doing the start-up and management of a variety of
programs. I was there from September of 1973 until May of 1983. In time I became well
acquainted with many of the members of the tribe as well as their Hispanic and Anglo
neighbors. Our monthly newsletter, The Thoughtful Years, contained announcements
of up coming events, news written by Charlotte Jones and Liva Pacheco and short
biographical sketches of the Pine River people
For twenty years Roberta was a full time stay-at-home mom, expert in all house
and garden and culinary and child-rearing skills. About the time our youngest reached
the age of 16, both of us decided to begin a second teaching career. For this we chose

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�to work in Cortez. For the next 18 years Roberta taught French and I taught English
once again.
Art, our oldest son, received his Ph.D. in physics from the University of Texas
and currently is a research professor in nano science at Ohio University. Our daughter,
Annette, is raising five little ones and is now a nurse specialist assigned to care for the
many people of our area who suffer the after effects of working in uranium mines. Our
youngest son, Brad (the one who wanted a job in the shade), received his law degree at
Yale and currently works at one of the premier law firms in New York City.

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Roberta and I both retired from our teaching careers in 2003. Volunteer work
has taken over part of our lives. We soon learned it wants lo take over all of it. So we
are occupied with church events, projects for our Cortez Cultural Center, planning tours
for an archeological preserve near our home, resuming watercolor painting, playing my
violin, trying to stay toned and fit, and going on vacation as often as possible.
In November of 2004 I was fortunate to survive a serious complication from a
routine surgery. With a new awareness of how fragile life can be, I am very happy lo be
here to write this little autobiographical sketch. Reading and editing these stories has
once again reminded me how rich and wonderful it was to work in Ignacio. I wish to
thank Donna, Manuel, Liva, Sally, Margaret, Claudelle, Phoebe, Hazel, Alice, Carmen,
Joyce, Margie, Robert, Freddie, Gisela, Adela, the Arboles Honor Camp boys and many
others for supporting everything I tried to do. I was always proud of them for the tender
kindness they bestowed on the senior citizens and the disadvantaged people in this
community.
With warmest regards lo all,
Shelby &amp; Roberta Smith

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SUNSHINE (Burch) SMITH (TAV-NEE-JA-GET)
Sunshine was born on October 20, 1916. Sunshine's parents loaded her and her
luggage into their buggy and drove slowly to the railway station south of Ignacio. She
was very excited and a little frightened to be going so far from home. Haskell Institute, a
secondary school for Indian children was located in Lawrence, Kansas. With the help of
the B .I.A. superintendent, Sunshine was enrolled at Haskell. She rode the train to
Alamosa and in the evening boarded a Union Pacific Pullman for Kansas. After supper
a porter approached her and said, "Little girl, your berth is ready." Sunshine slept,
occasionally awakened by the roar of passing trains and the screeching of brakes as
the train stopped in small plains towns. In the early morning hours, the porter came to
her berth and said, "Little girl we're almost there." Sunshine dressed quickly and in a
few minutes the train stopped and let her off. She was greeted by two girls from Haskell
who told her they were to be her big sisters until she was settled in the new school.
Haskell was a wonderful place. There were Indian students there from dozens of tribes
all over the country. There were Senecas, Otoes, Pottawatomies, Pawnees, Creeks,
Papagos and many more. Sunshine enjoyed the school band and the football team
(which beat the University of Kansas) and especially enjoyed the "Indian Club." The
club was intended to preserve Indian history and culture. It produced pageants
depicting Tribal history for fairs and other public events. Sunshine says Fritz Box was
there and was a member of a band called the "Night Hawks". Sunshine worked part
time in a hospital in Lawrence and considered going on to nursing school. One of the
nurses in the hospital took such a liking to Sunshine that she even offered to pay her
way through nurses training in Independence, Missouri. Sunshine's parents, however,
had other ideas. They decided she had been far away from home long enough. She
spent the summer at home and after considerable thought, decided to go to college at
the University of New Mexico.

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Sunshine took many courses in Home Economics and Art, but the course she enjoyed
most was probably horseback riding. She had to act a little inexperienced to get into the
course, but the truth was Sunshine had ridden horses all her life and loved it. As a child
she had ridden a horse to school in good weather and bad. The Ignacio School had a
stable where the horses could eat their oats and rest for the ride home. By the time
school was out both students and horses were "feeling their oats". Sunshine recalls,
"We often raced our horses all the way home." Her love for horses and riding was a
natural outgrowth of her family's race horse ventures. John Burch owned several race
horses, hired men to train them, entered them at Cortez, Farmington, Montrose and
Monte Vista and made good money at it. His best horse was called Bumblebee.
Sunshine remembers crying to ride Bumblebee at the age of 8 or 9. Except for learning
to jump horses over fences and hedges, the horseback riding course at the university
served mainly as recreation.
In the summers, Sunshine earned money working in the Ed C. Taylor Hospital in
Ignacio. Later she worked at the hospital at Towaoc. Francis Buck was the secretary for
Superintendent Mcspadden. Whenever he would come to Towaoc, Francis came, too,
and she and Sunshine would have a good visit. Sunshine went to Indian School (Ute
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�vocational) and was Assistant Matron to small Navajo girls. She then went back to
Business School at Haskell. After graduation in the early 1940's Sunshine moved to
Muncie, Indiana, and worked for the Owens-Illinois Glass Co. which made land mines.
She made friends with a group of ladies who began talking about joining the W.A.C.'s.
Finally, they talked themselves into joining. Basic training at Ft. Des Moines, Iowa, was
in the heat of mid-summer. It included K.P. duty and drill on a blistering parade ground.
After basic training Sunshine was given the blitz courses for surgical technician. From
there she was stationed at a hospital on Staten Island, New York. She well remembers
the damp cold of that winter. P.O.W.'s were imprisoned in a nearby compound. "Every
morning one of the prisoners was sent into our barracks to build our morning fire."
Sunshine worked a while at a hospital in Utica, New York, and then was sent back to
Staten Island for convoy duty. This was a 24 hour duty to receive the sick and wounded
who were arriving back in the U.S. Some of these man had been involved in the
European war for years. "Many of them cried when they got off the ships, they were so
glad to be back in their own country. Some would ask to be taken off the stretchers so
they could kiss the ground. We would get them settled in the hospital and then allow
them one free phone call to their folks. It was all a very emotional and touching
experience." After this Sunshine was given training in occupational therapy, the field in
which she worked until she was discharged in 1945. By then she had reached the rank
of T-4, Technical Sergeant.
Sunshine was very happy to return to Ignacio. "The thing I missed the most was the
mountains.'' She worked for a while at the girl's dorm and while there became
acquainted with a fellow doing construction work and painting on the campus.
Sunshine and Diamond Smith were married and soon afterward move to California, but
not just to California - to Hollywood. They lived in Hollywood Hills overlooking the
whole beautiful metro area of Los Angeles. She wouldn't mind living there again if it
were as clean and uncrowded as it was then. In 1947 sunshine's only child Gayla was
born. They lived in San Diego and in Bullhead City, Arizona, for a while before coming
back to Ignacio.
In 1950 Sunshine was elected to the Tribal Council. II was in interesting transitional
period for the tribe. During the preceding decades the BIA superintendents had
managed the affairs of the tribe in a paternalistic way, expecting the tribal council to act
merely as "yes" men. About this time the council changed this. They began meeting
separately rather than under the watchful eye of the BIA. Soon they began to act
independently on all matters related to tribal policy and welfare. Sometime during 195254 the Southern Ute Tribe won their land claim case and was awarded a very large
sum of money. It became the job of Sunshine, Eddie Box, Fritz Box, Jack Frost, Julius
Cloud, Sam Burch and others of that period to create a program for administering the
money. Of all the work required during those years it's obvious Sunshine is most proud
of one idea she put forth. It was her idea to set up a trust fund for each Ute child. The
youth in the tribe are still benefitting from her foresight.
Sunshine is bilingual, and an inspiration to many. She was a dancer and still dances
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She has had Tao Chi training.
"Diamond was a good baker," she said, and they owned the "Cornbread Feather Cafe"
in Ignacio during the oil boom. She's seen lots of changes. She said, "At one time there
were few buildings and now it's so different". Ignacio had "out houses" and no sewers.
She also said the Tribe developed it over the years and now it's hard to find an
outhouse. She got electricity in 1959. Sunshine stated it "brightened up the place." She
said running water in the house was "something, because before we had to carry it in."
When asked about the old days, Sunshine says there were more farmers and more
livestock in the country. More people grew wheat and oats and other crops, and
neighbors helped one another. She remembers fondly their neighbors - the
Washingtons, Joneses, Stones, Holinsons and others. "My father would help them with
their harvesting and then they would come help him with his. We didn't think of our
neighbors as Anglos or Indians, just as people. We had no trouble and we were happy."
The greatest improvement in the area since the 1920's according to Sunshine has been
the roads. Pavement and graveling has made a great difference in convenience.
However, one old time means of travel she misses is the sled trips to town in the winter.
The whole family would bundle up in coats and blankets and go into town for shopping.
She recalls a few differences in the town. Practically the whole block where the city hall
and the Texaco station are today was a corral and hitching area for horses and buggies.
A meat market stood where the Shell station is and the old Post Office was located
where the Phillips now live.
Diamond died in December, 1991 . Sunshine now lives with her grandson. She has 5
grandchildren and they all lived with her while attending high school. She has served on
the many tribal committees. Some include the Cultural Board, Health Board,
Sunshine tells her grandchildren "you don't know how easy you have it". She told them
she had to bring in wood and do lots of chores that don't have to be done today.
Sunshine is very active today. Besides serving in various capacities of the Tribe,
including the Constitution, the Ute Dictionary, and the Committee of Elders, she joins
the other seniors in Eldercize and travels often. She is a pleasure to be around .
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The room was small and dusty and very dark. Some broken desks and piles of books
were stacked near the rear wall. A small indistinct form sat very still on the floor. The
little girl had cried hard for a long time. Now only an occasional soft sniff was heard.
Euterpe was 8 years old. She had been enrolled in the Ute Agency Boarding School for
a year and a half. Ordinarily "Terpe" was very shy, but this evening at supper when the
little boy at the next table put 3 green peas in his spoon and neatly flipped them across
the room to smack against another boy's face, "Terpe" couldn't resist the lure of a little
deviltry. She was aiming her third spoon of peas when the matron grabbed her arm.
Isolation in the dark room was only one of the punishments the matron had reserved for
misbehaving children. Administering punishments for cause or often for no cause
seemed to be the chief interest of the matron. Though the memories "Terpe" has of her
experiences with the matron are unhappy ones, perhaps some good came of it. As the
years passed something in the shy little girl stiffened and strengthened until she
became outspoken and courageous, willing to stand up for her rights and for her family
and friends.
Though Terpe's parents lived nearby (their farm site is now the north part of Ignacio),
they put her in the boarding school. They wanted her to get a good education, which at
that time largely meant learning to speak English. On the first day of school Terpe
couldn't speak one word of English or of Ute. Though Terpe's mother was a full-blood
Ute, she talked Spanish at home and at the age of 6, Spanish was all Terpe knew. But
children learn fast and soon she could speak three languages well. She still does.
When Terpe was 8, her father, John Taylor, built a house on John Green's place north
of town and moved his family there. Terpe got to attend the Allen Day School. She liked
it much better than the boarding school partly because she got to live at home. The
memory of the day the doctors came to Ellen Day School is still with her. A small pox
vaccination in 1908 was no gentle pricking of the arm. The doctors of that time felt it
necessary to make many crisscross slashing cuts on the upper arm to insure the
vaccination took. "We were all whooping and hollering and screeching. I felt like I had
been branded." Terpe went to school until she was 15, then she stayed at home to help
with the work. Terpe had always had to work hard at home. At 6 she was cooking and
sewing diapers for her little brothers on the treadle sewing machine. At the age of 11,
she cooked her first Thanksgiving dinner - turkey, pies and everything.
For entertainment Terpe liked nothing better than dancing. She enjoyed both the
ceremonial dances of the Utes and the social dances of the Spanish and the Anglos.
"When we had a dance, we didn't quit at midnight, it lasted all night."
When Terpe married Joe Valdez, she had no idea she would get to raise 20 children, 7
of her own and 13 nieces, nephews and grand children. If it was needed, there was
always room for one more. The whole group worked the gardens and shelled peas and
snapped beans and cooked and canned. It took a lot of work to provide for so many for
so long, but Terpe says, "We always had enough."

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When Terpe's father, John Taylor died in 1935, he lacked two weeks of being 100 years
old. How he came to be a respected participant in the affairs of the Southern Ute Tribe
is a fascinating story. John Taylor was a black man, born a slave in Louisville,
Kentucky, in 1835. He was sold in the slave market to a Kentucky Plantation owner and
worked there for many years. At the outbreak of the Civil War, John, who was 26, ran
away to join the Yankee Army. Four years of horror followed. John was assigned to an
artillery company to load the cannon. There were times when the dead and the
suffering injured were all around, times when the Johnny Rebs were close, times when
the Yanks would run in fear, but not John. "I didn't run," he told his children, "I didn't
want to be a slave anymore." When the war was over, John traveled west. He lived in
Raton for a while, then moved to Tierra Amarillo where he married a Spanish girl and
had several children. A tragic epidemic of small pox killed all his family. Moving on west,
John lived among the Navajo for a while before coming into Colorado. He quickly
learned to speak Ute. Since he could already speak Navajo, Spanish, Apache, English,
French and Italian, John Taylor soon proved to be a valuable translator for the Southern
Utes. In 1895 John and Kitty Cloud decided to get married. John was 40 years older
than Kitty and her family thought it was madness for her- to marry such an old man.
Age, however, is a relative thing. John and Kitty were married for 40 years, and had 15
children, the last of whom was born when John was 81 years old. He told his children
many stories of his experiences, some of which Terpe remembers. "He would often sit
with a far away look in his eyes, singing "Marching Through Georgia" or other songs of
the war. Sometimes he would cry when he would tell us of the death and horror of the
war. And always he would say he didn't ever want any of us to have to fight in a war."
Today Terpe is approaching 74 years of age. She looks and feels like a much younger
person. Anything she could ever do, she can do today. She is just as able and willing to
offer help, counsel and encouragement today as she was 40 years ago.

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Terpe misses the wagon days and especially the train. "I like cars, but the wagon days
were better. Life was calmer and more fun then. Anyone going to Durango rode the
train and once there you could ride the street cars from one end of Main to the other for
ten cents."
A beautifully carved Love Calling Flute hangs on Terpe's wall. It was made by Herbert
Coyote and is a treasured gift. In the days long past the young men of the Utes carved
their own flutes. On the long summer evenings they would sit among the trees or on a
hill above the home of the girl they loved and call to her with the haunting, compelling
songs of the love flute. Terpe says the sound of the Love Calling Flute carried a long
way on the still air of the evening. "They were the saddest songs I ever heard. When I
was a little girl they always made me cry." The songs are. gone from the hills, but the
memory of them and of the old way of life lingers on with Terpe and others of her
generation.
Shelby Smith - April, 1974

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"I was born in Chama, Colorado, 4 miles east of San Luis in the San Luis Valley on
November 15, 1895. My parents, Serafin and Tonita Valdez were farmers, raising
wheat, peas and livestock. My father's parents were originally from Los Ranchitos, N.
M. near Espanola, but migrated into Colorado before my father was born. I have four
brothers and two sisters. That does not count several others who died before they were
grown. When I was 7 years old I started to school at Chama. During the school term I
stayed with my mother's parents, Trinidad and Juanita Sanchez, whose farm was close
to school. Every morning the school janitor fired up the pot-belly stoves in each of the
three rooms. At the end of the day each teacher had to sweep the classroom. Mr. David
Gaul was my first teacher. All of us were Spanish speakers. They tried to teach us
English, but it didn't work too well. Every text book was in English. We would sound out
the words and Mr. Gaul would translate. It was slow work and not too interesting. But
we enjoyed the baseball games and other activities at noon and during recess. Also we
helped pass the time of day with mischievous pranks during the school day."
"After seventh grade, I stayed home to help my father with the farm work. I did this until
I was 25 years old. If I had any extra time, I worked for wages on other farms. When I
was about 16 years old, my father hired Albino Baca and his family lo herd sheep. Little
did I know I would some day marry his daughter, Maria Inez, who at that time was only
a 7 year old girl. I never saw Maria again until 9 years later, two days before our
wedding."
"When I was 25 years old, my parents decided it was time for me to get married. They
thought over the possibilities and remembered Albino Baca's daughter must be about
old enough to marry. The custom of parents arranging their children's marriages was a
very old and traditional way, but I had no objections. A little after Christmas my mother
and father hitched up their buggy to pay Albino Baca a visit. He lived on a farm near
Red Wing, Colorado, a two day journey across the mountains through La Veta Pass.
The wedding was arranged. I went to San Luis to buy a wedding dress, shoes and other
clothing as a gift to my bride. This also was an old tradition for the groom to present as
a gift to the bride. It was also customary for the groom to present the bride with a trunk
full of beautiful clothes just before the wedding. On the 16th of January, 1920, my
parents, my grandparents, an aunt, and an uncle and I loaded up two buggies and
began the trip to Red Wing. About half way over the mountain was an abandoned saw
mill where we camped for the night. The next day, when we arrived at Red Wing, the
families were introduced and my uncle took his buggy on to the home of a friend several
miles to stay the night. I went lo our buggy to bring the trunk to Maria, but found it was
missing. My dad headed back to the saw mill, thinking we had left it there. After he left,
my uncle returned because he had found the trunk in his buggy. I got on a horse to
catch my father. By the time I overtook him and returned lo Red Wing it was midnight.
"I was very pleased with my parent's choice. Maria was very pretty and was well trained.
Even though she was young, she could cook and sew and everything else a wife needs
to do. We were married in church on January 20, 1920. We took her two little brothers
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�"At first we lived in a house provided by the farmer I worked for. Two years later I built a
two room adobe house on my father's land. Maria and I had seven children. They are
Leonardo, Rudolfo, Eugenio, Adela, Liva, Ignacio and Ben. Her little brothers were
Isaac and Frutoso. In 1940 we moved to Florence where I worked on the turnip and
onion farms. Just as soon as one crop was harvested, we planted another as long as
the season lasted. Maria died in 1943. I moved to Center and lived there until 1958. In
1958 I married Rose Green and we moved to her farm east of Ignacio where I raised
cattle and goats until I retired. Rose died in 1977. I stayed on the farm until 1978 when I
moved to the senior citizen apartments north of Ignacio where I still live."
Taken December, 1979 -Shelby Smith

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