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EMMIT EVANS
Emmit Bud Evans and his twin sister were born August 7, 1896, at Old McGee in the
Chickasaw Nation of Oklahoma Indian Territory near present day Stratford in East
Central Oklahoma, Their parents, Isaac and Mary Ann had a total of 12 children. After
living at Old McGee for several years, the family moved to Maud, a small settlement in
Pottawatomie County, Oklahoma,
When Isaac was a young man, he worked for the Butler-Stewart Cattle Co, driving herds
from East Texas across the Indian Territory to join the Chisholm Trail at Enid. Since
there were no railroads into Texas in the 1870's and early 1880's, the only way the great
herds of Texas could reach the markets in the East was by means of the classic cattle
drives 600-800 miles north to the railheads in Kansas. On one of these drives Isaac met
Mary Ann. They were married in 1883. Isaac had wintered one herd of cows in Barber
County, Kansas and was so impressed with the quality of the buffalo grass that he
decided to move his family further north into either Kansas or Oklahoma.
Everyone who traveled in Oklahoma in frontier times sooner or later had a tale to tell
about crossing one of its rivers. During most of the year, except after heavy rains, the
rivers of central and Western Oklahoma run mostly underground. The South Canadian is
typical. Though the river bed may be a mile wide, only a few channels run water. The
remainder of the bed is sand or the dreaded quicksand. People wanting to cross with
wagons would hitch four or more mules and make a run for it, whooping and hollering to
spur the critters on. Most people made it, of course, but every year a few wagons and
animals and occasionally some people were lost in the quivering sands. The Evans
made it to Maud, acquired a farm and built a log house,
Emmit recalls, "Dad was strictly a cattle man and so all of us boys had to learn to ride,
rope, bulldog and brand, I can still hold any steer in the country. Just give me his tail and
throw him and I'll hold him down,"
"Dad built our log house out of Cottonwood, That's good building material, but you better
drive your nails before it dries or you may not get them in. Even the rafters were
cottonwood 2' by 6's. Once they dry they'll hold up anything. We raised enough food in
our garden to feed the whole family all year. Mother kept our canned food and potatoes,
carrots and cabbages in the cellar. We got all the wild fruit we wanted. There were the
little sour red sand plums for jelly and a large sweet plum for eating fresh . Then there
were paw-paws and the persimmons and Black Haws which got us fat for the winter.
That country is full of Black Walnut Trees and Native pecans. Every fall each of us kids
would gather all the pecans we could sell at 4 cents per pound, and then we put away
100 pounds for ourselves, which we stashed under the stairs. No one bothered anyone
else's sack. On cold winter evenings we would crack and eat all the pecans we wanted.
Sometimes we'd play hully-gully. One of us would hold 2 or more pecans between our
palms and shake them till they rattled. By the sound the other person would guess how
many there were. If he guessed right, he got the pecans. If he guessed wrong he had to
give the other person an equal number of pecans from his supply."

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�"Since there was no school at Maud, I didn't start at 6 years of age. When Emma and I
were 10, Dad took us to the Meckusuki Mission School, a boarding school over on the
Seminole Reseivation. We didn't like it a bit. We got there at 1:00 in the afternoon. By
10:00 at night we had walked all the way home. We expected Dad to be mad, but he
decided that if we were that unhappy, we wouldn't have to go. Though I didn't realize it at
the time, I had met an exceptional person at the Mission School. Jim Thorpe, all
American athlete and Olympic star, was enrolled in the Meckusuki School the same day I
was. He ran away, too. His father brought him on horseback. Jim didn't wait as long as
we did to run away. In fact he out-distanced his father's horse and was home before his
father, evidence of the great runner he would become."
Not long afterwards, a school was built at Maud. It was a rough building with homemade
benches and boards for writing, but we had a good teacher. Alva Christian was from
Tennessee and he took no nonsense from the kids. The children at Maud school were
normal, healthy, husky, rascally frontier kids full of mischief. Mr. Christian was a match
for them. He kept 15-20 dogwood switches of various thicknesses behind the map case
and he used them. Emmit says, "He had eyes in the back of his head. If we were
inattentive or naughty or dull, he went for a switch. He'd throw it to us, order us to bring it
to him and then proceed to wear it out on us. Such methods seem harsh today, but he
was a good teacher. He made us learn. He taught us vocal and instrumental music and
public speaking. Every Friday night he required us to participate in a "literary''. A crowd
from the surrounding territory came to these affairs to witness the students in debate,
extemporaneous speaking, recitations and music. It was one of the few entertainments
available to frontier people."
After 7th grade students had to pay tuition of $2.00 in order to attend high school. Emmit
didn't have the money so the businessmen in Maud paid the tuition so he could play
football.
"We had a great team, but no coach," Emmit remembers. "A couple of our teachers, Mr.
Greggs and Mr. Geisinger knew a little bit about the game, but we were on our own.
Even so we beat Shawnee, Seminole, Ada and all the other big towns around there. I
joined the National Guard in high school with no idea it would involve me in the first real
adventure of my life. When Pancho Villa started raiding across the border, our unit was
called up and sent to Brownsville, Texas, with General John Pershing, who later became
famous in World War I. Since I could speak Spanish passably because of a course or
two I had taken, I was assigned as Pershing's interpreter. We raided across the border
and tramped around. Except for a few shots fired at banditos we didn't accomplish
anything. Back home I finished high school and got a football scholarship to attend
Phillips University at Enid, Oklahoma, a college sponsored by the Christian Church
(Disciples of Christ). We had a great year. Our coach was Johnny Maulbautch, AllAmerican halfback from Michigan. We beat Oklahoma University, Texas University and
everybody else we played. My studies there were interrupted by World War I. After some
training at Houston, we boarded a cattle boat at Galveston for France. The stench on
that trip was memorable. The ships traveled in convoy to get some protection from the
German U-Boats. We landed in England and then on to Bordeaux. I was assigned to the
Headquarter Co. of F215 Field Signal Battalion in the Belmont Woods. The war was
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By the time Emmit got back from the war, Phillips University had dropped its football
program, so he got a scholarship to attend Southwestern University at Winfield, Kansas.
He was involved in football and track. Back in high school Jim Thorpe had told Emmit if
he wanted to be an Olympic winner he could never smoke and needed to train all the
time. Emmit did this and was chosen for the American Olympic team which went to
Stockholm, Sweden in 1920. "I came in second in the 100 meter dash. At least I was
beaten by an American."

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In 1921 Emmit married Gladys Ely. She died in 1929 of pernicious anemia. There were
no children. During the years Gladys was alive Emmit was coaching football at San
Antonio Military Academy. They stayed there for 6 years until Gladys became quite sick,
then moved back to Winfield, Kansas. Emmit was hired as superintendent of schools at
Sharon, Kansas, then at Medicine Lodge, Kansas.
In 1933 Emmit married Madge Aubley. They lived in Medicine Lodge until 1945, when
Emmit semi-retired and moved to Pagosa Springs, Colorado. "I liked to hunt and fish,"
Emmit says, "and Pagosa was right in the middle of the best I could find." In succeeding
years Emmit taught school in Durango, then Cortez, then as superintendent at Dove
Creek and at Kit Carson, Colorado, until 1959 when Madge died.
Madge and Emmit had three children. Virginia Springmeyer now lives in Canon City;
Mary Jane Nelson how lived in Hawaii and Emmit Bud Jr. lives in the Piedra Valley north
of Navajo Lake. The girls were already gone from home when Madge died. Emmit
moved to Fort Collins so that Emmit Jr. would have the advantage of better schools.
Though officially retired, Emmit took a job as Larimer County Librarian till 1964.
About this time Emmit and Jr. built the Indian Head Lodge on Williams Creek Lake. They
sold groceries, gas etc. and enjoyed the wilderness. After Junior finished college, he
received a $25,000 fellowship to work towards his Ph. D at the University of California at
Berkeley. After acquiring his degree, Emmit Jr. worked at the Scripps Institute of
Oceanography near San Diego, until last year when he came to stay in the Piedra Valley
for a while.
Three of Emmit's eleven brothers and sisters are still living. One brother lives in Phoenix.
One sister is in Oklahoma City and his twin sister, Emma still lives in Wichita, Kansas.
Mr. Evans stays in the Piedra Valley in the summer. In winter he takes off for Mexico or
other points far away. Right now he is enroute to Maud, Oklahoma, to participate in his
high school's 60th class reunion . "As far as I know one other lady and I are the only ones
in our class left. I'm looking forward to seeing her if she is still alive."
How much fun and rascality and adventure can be packed into one life? That depends,
of course upon who we're talking about. If it's Emmit Evans, the answer is a lot.
Shelby Smith, June 1977

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Jose and Natividad Quintana were loading a covered wagon with all the necessities
and valuables they could carry. The remainder they sold or gave away to their friends in
Abiquiu, New Mexico, for they were about to start a long trip to the North. It was the
year 1900 when Jose and his wife heard about the opportunities developing in the San
Juan Valley near the Colorado line. They talked it over and decided to go there. Settling
near Rosa, they bought some land and opened a general store and blacksmith shop. At
first they were in partnership with Jose's brother-in-law. Later each man owned his own
store. By 1910 when Epimenio and his twin sister were born, (the youngest of 11
children) the family was well established at Rosa.
Epimenio says "My twin sister died when I was 5 months old and then my mother died
when I was one year and three months old. One of our neighbors, Candelaria Valdez,
took me to raise as her own. I kept in touch with my father and my brothers and sisters,
but Mrs. Valdez was a mother to me. I started to school at Rosa and finished 8th grade
at Arboles. When I was old enough, my Dad let me work in the store and taught me
some of the blacksmith trade."
"In 1929 when I was 19, I got my own sheep. Most of the time I grazed them on Federal
Land leased from the Dept. of the Interior on Middle Mesa. The lease cost about $0.13
per head. Most winters the snow was not deep enough and did not last long enough to
be a problem, but in 1931 I lost one third of my flock in the deep snow. Prices all went
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In 1941 when Epimenio was thrashing grain for Manley Hott, he got acquainted with
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New Mexico, later migrating with his parents to Rosa, where he met and married
Magdalena Quintana in 1922. They were homesteading on their first farm when Adela
was born. "I was born in our cellar on the homestead. That was the first dwelling my
parents built on their farm. We lived on that place until I was 4 years old. Then we
moved to Silverton where Dad worked in thE~ Treasure Tunnel Mine. I have good
memories of those years. It was wonderful to live in Silverton as a child. If you were a
dare-devil, which I suppose I was, there were many adventures waiting. I don't know
how we survived the railroad pump cars. A bunch of us would sneak down to the rail
yards, crawl up on one of the hand operated repair cars and pump it out of town into the
mountains. When we were high enough, we coasted back to town. The car wou'ld
squeal around the curves nearly turning over and nearly throwing us off. Once into the
flat part of town, it gradually slowed down and stopped in the rail yard. Though we did
this many times, no one ever stopped us or warned us not to do it again. While in
Silverton, I met my future husband for the first time. Epimenio was herding sheep in the
high mountains near Pyramid Peak. Since it was only about 28 miles to Silverton over
the passes, he decided to come to La Fiesta de los Boregerros. He stayed with relatives
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�their tails and swung my feet up into the hollow of their hind legs just above the knees
and rode them all over the place. You tell me why they didn't kick."
"I didn't see Epimenio again until we moved back to Rosa. Through the years as I was
growing up, I saw him occasionally at dances, but had no friendship with him until I was
18. While we were both working at the Holt's farm, Epimenio began to talk to me. Al first
I was not interested in him, but he was nice and I began to think that since we were
both interested in cattle and sheep and liked farm life, perhaps we could be happy
together. We were married in October, 1941.
Epimenio was drafted in 1942. He was sent to Camp Roberts, then to Hawaii and on to
the Solomon Islands. The native people were very friendly to Americans, but the
Japanese planes and snipers were not so friendly. Epimenio's unit guarded the airfields
on Espiritu Santu Island. After 17 months he was sent back to Hawaii and San
Francicso for hospitalization. When Epimenio got home, he and his family spent one
summer in Aztec before moving back to Rosa where he did farm work until 1960. The
Quintanas have 10 children: Nattie, Esther, Baltazar, Epimenio Jr (deceased), Elaine,
Bernard, Freddie, Larry, Selina and Jeanette.
In 1960 life was rudely interrupted in the San Juan Valley. All the people in Rosa and in
the valley above Navajo Dam had to move out to make way for the rising, waters of
Navajo Lake. The government gave Epimenio $1,900.00 for the 12 acres he had
inherited from his mother. It wasn't enough, but people had to take what they could get.
"We moved up on Stollsteimer Creek for one summer until we found this place to buy
west of Ignacio. We've been here ever since and are very happy with this place."
May, 1978 -- Shelby Smith

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                    <text>ERVIN AND ADDIE (Rutherford) GILBERT
"The first time I ran away from home, I was just 13 years old, but I knew how to work.
There was plenty of work in the farm country around Leon, Oklahoma, in the Red River
Valley on the Texas line in the 1920's, but the wages were poor. One farmer paid me
$12.50 per month working 7 days a week with a half day off on Sunday. People in those
days would just about make a slave out of you for nothing."
"I was the sixth child of W.J. and Ada Gilbert. When I was 5 months old, my mother died.
During the next few months the neighbors helped take care of me until my Dad married
Amanda Baxter. She was a brave lady to marry a man with six kids ranging from 1 to 11
years old. However, my Dad had a lot to offer. He owned his own freight line, using
teams and wagons to haul goods to and from the rail heads at St. Joe and Marietta.
Sometimes he went all the way to Wichita Falls. That took a week round trip. Amanda
was good to us, but she was Pennsylvania Dutch and pretty stern."

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"I quit school after 6th grade and left home several times doing all kinds of jobs. I cut
bois d'arc (bodark) posts for a while. During harvest season I worked as 'chaffer' on
thrashing crews. That was hot, itchy work, but it paid $3.50 -$4.00 per day. I earned
about the same amount as a teaming contractor digging slush pits and salt water ponds
in the east Texas oil fields."
"When the depression hit, wheat went from $1 .25 a bushel to $.25 per bushel to nothing.
During the worst times people couldn't sell anything. One year the farmers around Me
Kinney, Texas, raised a bumper crop of onions. The market went down and down until
on one could buy or sell any more onions. The farmers just dumped them along the
road. For ten miles the bar ditches were full of onions. They rotted and smelled for
years."
"In 1935, I got a notice to join the Civilian Conservation Crops, but almost missed my
chance. When the notice came, I was away job hunting and barely made it back in time
to get to Marietta. We were trucked to Ardmore where we boarded a train for Colorado.
There must have been over 200 of us in the group. All of us were just rough Okie farm
boys. Our first major stop was Joplin, Missouri. As the train sat parked in the station, we
began to notice a real self-important looking man marching up and down the platform
alongslde the train. Back and forth he went. We didn't know he was an armed railroad
'bull'. Some of the boys on the train got bored and decided to play a trick. They got a
bucket full of cold water and a bucket full of hot water and the next time he marched by
they let him have it with the cold one and then with the hot one. By the time he
recovered himself, spluttering and blowing, he was mad and had his gun drawn. It's a
good thing no head was showing in a window, because he was a pompous man and
almost mad enough to shoot. Our next stop was Kansas City, but the detective decided
our behavior wasn't fit for a big city and ordered the train to change to a route across
Southern Kansas and that's where we went."
"The trip was comfortable enough. Each of us had our own bunks and best of all they
gave every one of us $11.00 for snacks and drinks and pocket expenses along the way.
I still remember one stop at a small town in Southern Kansas. Captain Percival told us
we had 15 minutes to shop and look around and when the whistle blew to get back
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�immediately. We were having a great time in the bakeries and candy shops. Some of us
were holding sacks of goodies we hadn't even paid for when unknown to us a different
engine pulled into the yard and made a few toots. The 15 minutes wasn't nearly up, but
everyone panicked. There was a stampede and the whole town got roused up
wondering what was going on. At Alamosa we switched lo the narrow gauge. When we
arrived at the Durango Depot, trucks were wailing to take us lo our assigned camp site
on the La Plata River near Breen. There was nothing there but a sage brush field when
we arrived. However, within a few weeks, we had a neat camp laid out and a 5 acre
garden planted in the river bottom. Our group was assigned lo the Division of Grazing
and built roads, trails, fences and ponds. Rookies earned $30.00 per month, assistant
leaders earned $35.00 per month and leaders earned $40.00. All but $5.00 was sent
home to your family. We got a $5.00 ticket lo spend at the PX. My job was to drive a '34
Ford VB flatbed truck back and forth between the camp and Salt Lake City, Utah, hauling
supplies to the various camps along the way."
"In October, 1935 I went to a dance at Breen and met Addie Rutherford. We dated for
several months and were married at Aztec in 1936."
Addie Rutherford was born at Lewis, Colorado, which was named for her grandfather
Lewis, who started the first post office there. When Addie was born, her father Paul
Rutherford was a honey farmer. The family later moved to Telluride for 8 years, then to
Silverton for 8 years where Paul was a miner. Later they moved to Durango where Addie
finished high school and got a job in the telephone office.
Ervin could have signed up for another hitch in the CCC, but even though jobs were still
hard to find, he decided he would rather make his own way. To earn a living, the Gilberts
had to make a lot of moves the first few years of their marriage. They lived at various
places in southwest Colorado. Ervin did some mining, some truck driving and some
farming, and whatever was available because times were still hard.
"In 1947 we decided things might be a little better in Oklahoma, so we moved back to
Leon for 2 years where we very nearly went broke. We saved our money until we could
come back to Colorado. In 1949 we settled in Bayfield where I worked for the forest
service for 15 years."
In 1957 Ervin got a contract to quarry the rock for the new buildings at Ft. Lewis College.
Over the next several years Ervin provided 80-85% of the rock used in the new
construction at the college. He and Dan Black, one of the administrators at Fl. Lewis,
found the 'bacon rind' sandstone up on the Ewing place south of Durango, which was
used in most of the college buildings. No mechanical gimmicks were used in the
quarrying. It was all done using spalling hammers and loaded by hand. Ervin was paid
by the ton. Some of the buildings required 700 tons of rock.
The Gilberts had 10 children. Clark, the oldest, lives at Pleasant Hill, Missouri, near
Kansas City; Millard lives in Bakersfield, California; Gene died when he was 33; Judy
Beuten lives in Farmington; Sally Powell lives at Spring Creek; Salina Church is living at
Star, Idaho; Paul is at Wellington, Colorado; Patsy died at the age of 3; and Albert and
Terry are both living in Denver.
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Ignacio where they still live. Addie is an excellent seamstress and does sewing of all
kinds. Ervin grows his garden, goes fishing whenever he takes a notion (like most of the
Irish folk) and has a lot of fun. Best wishes to both of them.

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                    <text>Ethel Smith
I was born in Collbran, CO, Mesa County, September 1i 11, 1908. I went to a
country school, one room school, and then I road three miles horseback to high school.
And, I graduated from Collbran Union High School in 1926. [After high school] I started
in school in Gunnison, CO, and I went five and half weeks. I road on the train from
Grand Junction to Montrose, and then on to Gunnison. I was homesick at the end of one
semester, so I went back to Grand Junction, and then on to Collbran in the fall. My
parents sold their property and we moved to Missouri. I went to school at Missouri
Teachers' College in Springfield, MO. My friend came down from Collbran to MO. In
the spring we decided to quit school and go to Marysville to pick strawberries. We found
out from the school that they needed teachers. So, we decided to take the teachers' exam.
The last exam was on MO history-I looked at her [my friend] and she looked at me, and
we got up and walked out.
My folks came back to Collbran, after a year in MO. I took the CO state teachers'
exam, and taught my first school north ofDebeque, CO. Then, the next year I went to
Hayden and taught at a rural school on a cattle ranch. That's where I met my cowboy
boyfriend. We were married in 1931. I taught at rural schools, here and there, for the
next eight years. Then I taught my last year of school in Uravan. My husband was
working in the mines down in Arizona, and our son was 18 months old. So I went down
to AZ, and we lived there until 1944. In 1944, we traded our house in AZ for a ranch
southeast ofBayfield, CO.
My husband was in a later draft [for WWII], but he was "frozen" in the mines.
He worked in the copper mines in Jerome, AZ. If you worked in that big copper mine,
you were "frozen" [from the draft]. When we moved to CO, then he had to get an
agricultural status or he would have been drafted.
In the fall [of 1944 ?], somebody had heard that I had taught school. And, so, the
school board came up and wanted to know if I wanted to teach at the Pink school, which
was about two miles south of our ranch. My son was in the fourth grade [at that time]. I
taught there for two years. Stuck in the mud, rode horse back. .. I taught all grades, one
through eight. One of my students, who was in the fifth grade, sent me some pictures. I
had one picture from when I taught there (from '44-' 45 and '45-' 46). She sent me some
pictures, because she went to school there in '41-'42 and '42-'43. Then, I went to
Bayfield.
There [in Bayfield] I had the seventh grade. Then they unified the districts, and
the students started corning in on buses from out towards Pagosa Springs. I had the
seventh grade for two years upstairs in the old Bayfield building. When the gym was
finished there were two rooms above it. So, I taught over the gym for nine years. You
know, the kids never paid any attention to the noise, and I never paid any attention to the
noise. There were basketballs-Bang, Bang, music downstairs (under the two rooms), but
I don't think anyone ever said anything about the noise.

�I did go to Mesa College in Grand Junction one semester, when we came back
from MO. So, I had no college credits you might say. College teachers came from
University of CO, CO State University, from Western State, from Adams State. There
were classes at Fort Lewis [College], and I just started taking classes. So, in 1957 I had a
degree: BA degree.
They paid $1,000 more in Ignacio, and we were still on the ranch. So, it was
about halfway between Ignacio and Bayfield, and I came to Ignacio. And, do you know
the story about Benjamin Franklin paying too much for his whistle? Well, I paid too
much for my whistle when I came to Ignacio [to teach]. It was the second year that
Ignacio schools had been consolidated, and the buses had started to bring the kids in. At
the end of the first week I told my husband I wasn't going back. I told the principal that I
was not going back. I had one raunchy class: over age Spanish kids. They had been
retained in the first grade, they had probably been retained in the third or fourth. At the
junior high up here, if you failed two classes, then you were retained in that grade. I had
Spanish kids (junior high) sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years old. Five teachers had
resigned the year before. So, I told the principal, "I'm not coming back Monday," and he
said, "Oh yes you are!" So, I went back on Monday, and a Mr. Ackerd from MO met me
at the door. He said, "I'm taking that raunchy class of yours upstairs, and I'm sending
you ninth graders that don't know enough to tie their shoes and come to school. You
won't have any trouble with them." And, I had a tough principal, I'll tell you, a tough
principal.
I was in junior high [in Ignacio] until 1961. I saw a bulletin in the teachers' room
that said there was an institute over at the University of Nebraska in Guidance and
Counseling. I had no idea what it was all about. But, I applied for it, and I had told the
superintendent that I had applied for it. And, he said, "Well, go ahead and apply for it,
but you won't get it." That [the institute] was for second semester. I applied for it and
was accepted. I called him [the superintendent] and told him I was accepted, and he said,
"You can't go unless you get somebody to take your place." I was teaching math in
seventh, eighth, and ninth grades. Jake Candeleria, who owns Candeleria Heights up
here, went to high school with my son. He came up and said that he had just finished
college at Adams State, and was wondering where Larry [Ethel's son] was. I told him
that he was working over in Mancos, and Jack said that he was desperately in need of a
job. He said, "I'm so angry with Mr. Powell (the superintendent). I went down to talk
with him, and he said that he didn't have any job for me." I said to Mr. Candeleria,
"Well, what's your major?" He said, "Math." So, I let him have my job so that I could
go to the institute in Nebraska.
That was in '61, and the institute didn't start until February. I was on my way the
last day of January, and we didn't get out 'til the last of June. When I came back, Mr.
Powell gave me the job to start a guidance program.
After Sputnik, these institutes were set up by the government in science and math.
After that ran the gamut, they thought that all of these people needed guidance and
counseling. So, the government started these guidance and counseling institutes, and

�they paid us $7 5 per week. I had no more idea of what I was doing than the man on the
moon. But, I started the [guidance] program in elementary clear on through high school.
Then I was high school counselor. The most that I did was to find out where money
came from for kids to go on to school. And, I worked a lot with minority students. I
worked with the Indian students a lot. Mr. Dietz, the superintendent at the time, called
me and said that Mr. Scott was going to take the Indian students, he was to be my cocounselor and he would take the Indian kids. Mr. Dietz told me to set up meetings with
the students and find out who wants to go to Mr. Scott; who was Navajo married to a Ute.
He never got an Indian kid, I got all the Indians and he got all the white kids. I would say
to them, "why don't you go to Mr. Scott?" They replied, "we don't want to work with an
Indian."
I retired in '74. I have belonged for many years to Delta Kappa Gamma, an
international teachers' organization. They send out a bulletin, and in one bulletin they
advertised for a social studies and English teacher at Navajo Community College. You
know, I didn't even know what a resume was. You never heard of the word "resume".
So, I sent an application in, but they hired a teacher from Canada who had had ESL
[English as a Second Language training]. In two years, shwe decided to go back to
Canada, anfd the chairperson at the college asked me to come for an interview. I was
substituting at the high school [at the time], so I didn't go [for the interview] until spring
vacation. I was hired, and was there for 20 years. Well, I'm 95 now and I stayed there
'til I was 88, I'll let you do your math.
I came home every two weeks for 20 years. And, you know, I never thought
anything about the roads, I never had a flat tire-I couldn't have changed it ifI did. I had
my first one up here about two months ago.
I have the one son, and he left school when he was a junior and went into the
Navy. His ship helped to evacuate the French when they were leaving Indochina. There
was a French soldier who had been there for seven years, hadn't been home for seven
years, and he traded Larry a gun for a can of beans. He said they were starving. And
then, he helped evacuate the Chinese-Cheng Kaichek, you know? He has a lot of
pictures. He has a picture of a little girl, who had died, and they dressed her, put her in a
chute, and buried her in the ocean. He has pictures where the ship was just crammed
with Chinese.
He went in when he was 17 and got out three years later. After he got out he went
into an agricultural program. He had a friend, who had a shoe shop, and he persuaded
Larry to learn to do shoe repair. So, Larry went to Denver (he was married then), to the
Emily Griffith Opportunity School, which is a famous school. He went there almost a
year, and came back and had his shoe shop. Then he wanted to learn how to make
cowboy boots, so he sent to Oklahoma to a junior college. He was there almost a year,
then came back. We had the shop over here where the Peddler's is located.
My parents farmed, dad was a good farmer. My dad came from the Indian
Territory in 1898. He sold his farm, and his older sister, his older brother, and his older
sister's daughter and her baby came to Glenwood Springs (on up from Grand Junction).

�In the middle of the winter they came to Glenwood Springs, and the climate is about like
Durango. I don't know how they got to Collbran, but he played the violin or he played
the fiddle, and that's where he met my mother. My mother was born in Boulder. She
was 34 when I was born. She was 28 when they were married and my dad was 37.
We can't find anything out about my dad's ancestors, because we didn't listen. I
didn't listen to my dad. And, I didn't know until long after he was gone, but he grew up
with blacks and Indians. I didn't know that after the Civil War, the blacks were
encouraged to settle in Oklahoma, to homestead in OK. But, what I remember was they
would swim in the creeks, and there was a small pox epidemic. They would line up
along the banks and keep the Indians and the blacks from going in the water. Because,
you know, then they wouldn't break out, and a lot of them died. There was an old, old
Indian who lived up from where my dad lived, and it wasn't derogatory then to say
"nigger". My dad always called him "Nigger John", and never thought anything about it.
But, the reason my dad came to CO, he had an older brother who came to the San
Luis Valley (over by Alamosa). I don't know why [the brother] came to Alamosa. There
he met a Mormon woman, got married, had 12 children over the years, and moved to
Collbran. I don't know why he came to CO [the older brother?]. But, people did move
about.
I have a book on both sides of my mother's family. All I know is that she was
Pennsylvania Dutch, but German from way back. My grandmother's grandmother, I
think it was, her husband was killed by the nobility in Germany. She escaped, she had an
older child who had come to America, but she escaped into France and Switzerland. A
single woman couldn't come on the ship to America, so she married a Hessian soldier.
But, she couldn't pay the passage for her youngest child, so he was bound out to
somebody for the passage. My mother's maiden name was Strock, my maiden name is
Barker. I joined the D.A.R. [Daughters of the American Revolution] about 35 years ago.
I can go back on either side of my mom's family: her father was a Tylson, and her
mother's side, which was Strock. But, Strock had been three different spellings: Strauck,
Strack, and Strock. So, it was easier to go back on her mother's side, on the Strock side.
My grandfather was English. I go back to the Mayflower on the English side. My
genealogy goes back to when they first came to America, and that was the first
generation. I'm about the eleventh generation, I think. There is a Tylson reunion in NY
every year. They have Larry's name and my sister's four children's names. I had one
ancestor who fought at Valley Forge, it could have been a Tylson or a Strock.
My dad was born in Coles [?] County, Illinois. His dad was a horse trader, so
they moved from one place to another. I can remember that my dad had a brother named
Red, because my dad said that he was the only redheaded one in the family. He also had
a brother who settled in MO. There was a big family in the Barkers. My son looks like a
Barker in the face: they have thin noses and faces. There are no fat ones in that family.
My grandson, Kenny, has red hair, and will be 24 on the 31 st of January [2004]. He was
born on my way to Nebraska.

�I know that this house was hauled up here in 1948 [the house was ordered from a
Montgomery Ward catalog]. Thank God that the woodwork has never been painted-this
is the original woodwork. There are doors in this house you can't believe. I think there
are about 11 doors in here.
Interviewed by Michael Miller,
Americorps*VISTA for the
Ignacio Historical Society,
December 9th, 2003.

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"I was born in Chama, Colorado, 4 miles east of San Luis in the San Luis Valley on
November 15, 1895. My parents, Serafin and Tonita Valdez were farmers, raising
wheat, peas and livestock. My father's parents were originally from Los Ranchitos, N.
M. near Espanola, but migrated into Colorado before my father was born. I have four
brothers and two sisters. That does not count several others who died before they were
grown. When I was 7 years old I started to school at Chama. During the school term I
stayed with my mother's parents, Trinidad and Juanita Sanchez, whose farm was close
to school. Every morning the school janitor fired up the pot-belly stoves in each of the
three rooms. At the end of the day each teacher had to sweep the classroom. Mr. David
Gaul was my first teacher. All of us were Spanish speakers. They tried to teach us
English, but it didn't work too well. Every text book was in English. We would sound out
the words and Mr. Gaul would translate. It was slow work and not too interesting. But
we enjoyed the baseball games and other activities at noon and during recess. Also we
helped pass the time of day with mischievous pranks during the school day."
"After seventh grade, I stayed home to help my father with the farm work. I did this until
I was 25 years old. If I had any extra time, I worked for wages on other farms. When I
was about 16 years old, my father hired Albino Baca and his family lo herd sheep. Little
did I know I would some day marry his daughter, Maria Inez, who at that time was only
a 7 year old girl. I never saw Maria again until 9 years later, two days before our
wedding."
"When I was 25 years old, my parents decided it was time for me to get married. They
thought over the possibilities and remembered Albino Baca's daughter must be about
old enough to marry. The custom of parents arranging their children's marriages was a
very old and traditional way, but I had no objections. A little after Christmas my mother
and father hitched up their buggy to pay Albino Baca a visit. He lived on a farm near
Red Wing, Colorado, a two day journey across the mountains through La Veta Pass.
The wedding was arranged. I went to San Luis to buy a wedding dress, shoes and other
clothing as a gift to my bride. This also was an old tradition for the groom to present as
a gift to the bride. It was also customary for the groom to present the bride with a trunk
full of beautiful clothes just before the wedding. On the 16th of January, 1920, my
parents, my grandparents, an aunt, and an uncle and I loaded up two buggies and
began the trip to Red Wing. About half way over the mountain was an abandoned saw
mill where we camped for the night. The next day, when we arrived at Red Wing, the
families were introduced and my uncle took his buggy on to the home of a friend several
miles to stay the night. I went lo our buggy to bring the trunk to Maria, but found it was
missing. My dad headed back to the saw mill, thinking we had left it there. After he left,
my uncle returned because he had found the trunk in his buggy. I got on a horse to
catch my father. By the time I overtook him and returned lo Red Wing it was midnight.
"I was very pleased with my parent's choice. Maria was very pretty and was well trained.
Even though she was young, she could cook and sew and everything else a wife needs
to do. We were married in church on January 20, 1920. We took her two little brothers
who were ages 3 and 7 home to raise. Maria had taken care of them since their mother

died."
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�"At first we lived in a house provided by the farmer I worked for. Two years later I built a
two room adobe house on my father's land. Maria and I had seven children. They are
Leonardo, Rudolfo, Eugenio, Adela, Liva, Ignacio and Ben. Her little brothers were
Isaac and Frutoso. In 1940 we moved to Florence where I worked on the turnip and
onion farms. Just as soon as one crop was harvested, we planted another as long as
the season lasted. Maria died in 1943. I moved to Center and lived there until 1958. In
1958 I married Rose Green and we moved to her farm east of Ignacio where I raised
cattle and goats until I retired. Rose died in 1977. I stayed on the farm until 1978 when I
moved to the senior citizen apartments north of Ignacio where I still live."
Taken December, 1979 -Shelby Smith

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The room was small and dusty and very dark. Some broken desks and piles of books
were stacked near the rear wall. A small indistinct form sat very still on the floor. The
little girl had cried hard for a long time. Now only an occasional soft sniff was heard.
Euterpe was 8 years old. She had been enrolled in the Ute Agency Boarding School for
a year and a half. Ordinarily "Terpe" was very shy, but this evening at supper when the
little boy at the next table put 3 green peas in his spoon and neatly flipped them across
the room to smack against another boy's face, "Terpe" couldn't resist the lure of a little
deviltry. She was aiming her third spoon of peas when the matron grabbed her arm.
Isolation in the dark room was only one of the punishments the matron had reserved for
misbehaving children. Administering punishments for cause or often for no cause
seemed to be the chief interest of the matron. Though the memories "Terpe" has of her
experiences with the matron are unhappy ones, perhaps some good came of it. As the
years passed something in the shy little girl stiffened and strengthened until she
became outspoken and courageous, willing to stand up for her rights and for her family
and friends.
Though Terpe's parents lived nearby (their farm site is now the north part of Ignacio),
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that time largely meant learning to speak English. On the first day of school Terpe
couldn't speak one word of English or of Ute. Though Terpe's mother was a full-blood
Ute, she talked Spanish at home and at the age of 6, Spanish was all Terpe knew. But
children learn fast and soon she could speak three languages well. She still does.
When Terpe was 8, her father, John Taylor, built a house on John Green's place north
of town and moved his family there. Terpe got to attend the Allen Day School. She liked
it much better than the boarding school partly because she got to live at home. The
memory of the day the doctors came to Ellen Day School is still with her. A small pox
vaccination in 1908 was no gentle pricking of the arm. The doctors of that time felt it
necessary to make many crisscross slashing cuts on the upper arm to insure the
vaccination took. "We were all whooping and hollering and screeching. I felt like I had
been branded." Terpe went to school until she was 15, then she stayed at home to help
with the work. Terpe had always had to work hard at home. At 6 she was cooking and
sewing diapers for her little brothers on the treadle sewing machine. At the age of 11,
she cooked her first Thanksgiving dinner - turkey, pies and everything.
For entertainment Terpe liked nothing better than dancing. She enjoyed both the
ceremonial dances of the Utes and the social dances of the Spanish and the Anglos.
"When we had a dance, we didn't quit at midnight, it lasted all night."
When Terpe married Joe Valdez, she had no idea she would get to raise 20 children, 7
of her own and 13 nieces, nephews and grand children. If it was needed, there was
always room for one more. The whole group worked the gardens and shelled peas and
snapped beans and cooked and canned. It took a lot of work to provide for so many for
so long, but Terpe says, "We always had enough."

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When Terpe's father, John Taylor died in 1935, he lacked two weeks of being 100 years
old. How he came to be a respected participant in the affairs of the Southern Ute Tribe
is a fascinating story. John Taylor was a black man, born a slave in Louisville,
Kentucky, in 1835. He was sold in the slave market to a Kentucky Plantation owner and
worked there for many years. At the outbreak of the Civil War, John, who was 26, ran
away to join the Yankee Army. Four years of horror followed. John was assigned to an
artillery company to load the cannon. There were times when the dead and the
suffering injured were all around, times when the Johnny Rebs were close, times when
the Yanks would run in fear, but not John. "I didn't run," he told his children, "I didn't
want to be a slave anymore." When the war was over, John traveled west. He lived in
Raton for a while, then moved to Tierra Amarillo where he married a Spanish girl and
had several children. A tragic epidemic of small pox killed all his family. Moving on west,
John lived among the Navajo for a while before coming into Colorado. He quickly
learned to speak Ute. Since he could already speak Navajo, Spanish, Apache, English,
French and Italian, John Taylor soon proved to be a valuable translator for the Southern
Utes. In 1895 John and Kitty Cloud decided to get married. John was 40 years older
than Kitty and her family thought it was madness for her- to marry such an old man.
Age, however, is a relative thing. John and Kitty were married for 40 years, and had 15
children, the last of whom was born when John was 81 years old. He told his children
many stories of his experiences, some of which Terpe remembers. "He would often sit
with a far away look in his eyes, singing "Marching Through Georgia" or other songs of
the war. Sometimes he would cry when he would tell us of the death and horror of the
war. And always he would say he didn't ever want any of us to have to fight in a war."
Today Terpe is approaching 74 years of age. She looks and feels like a much younger
person. Anything she could ever do, she can do today. She is just as able and willing to
offer help, counsel and encouragement today as she was 40 years ago.

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Terpe misses the wagon days and especially the train. "I like cars, but the wagon days
were better. Life was calmer and more fun then. Anyone going to Durango rode the
train and once there you could ride the street cars from one end of Main to the other for
ten cents."
A beautifully carved Love Calling Flute hangs on Terpe's wall. It was made by Herbert
Coyote and is a treasured gift. In the days long past the young men of the Utes carved
their own flutes. On the long summer evenings they would sit among the trees or on a
hill above the home of the girl they loved and call to her with the haunting, compelling
songs of the love flute. Terpe says the sound of the Love Calling Flute carried a long
way on the still air of the evening. "They were the saddest songs I ever heard. When I
was a little girl they always made me cry." The songs are. gone from the hills, but the
memory of them and of the old way of life lingers on with Terpe and others of her
generation.
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                    <text>EVA MARIAN (Wright) WORFORD
The girl, 15 and the boy 13, stood beside a tall pile of luggage, trunks, cases and boxes
on the railroad platform. Suddenly, the boy ducked behind the pile and hissed at his
sister to do the same. A tall man in blue pants and coat examined the luggage and the
children closely as he rode by on a chestnut horse. The boy said "Don't you know that's
a policeman?" Marian and Ethan had just arrived in Chicago with their mother.
Everything was unfamiliar and a little frightening. Like many country people of that era
the children were nervous and suspicious of town people. Their mother had left them to
watch the luggage while she looked for a means of transporting it from one railway
station to another across town. Moving was not a new experience for the Wrights, but
they had never moved so far. The family had lived in many different places in Michigan.
Now they were going to Colorado.
Eva Marian Wright was born August 13, 1902 in Cass County, Southern Michigan. It
was hilly, very green, forested country full of clear, flowing streams and "lots of bugs",
Marian remembers. Her father, Carlton Eugene Wright and her mother, Myrta (Hogue)
Wright moved frequently doing carpenter work and sales in various communities in
southern Michigan. The home Marian remembers best is the country mill her father
bought. The mill was four stories high. The upper two stories were for grinding flour and
the lower two were for grinding feed grist for cattle and chickens. The mill was powered
by a turbine fed by flumes running from the three streams in the valley. It was a
beautiful place. When the children were not needed to work in the mill they were
assigned to fish in the nearby streams to supply meat for the family. Marian and Ethan
never became bored with this assignment. Since Mr. Wright was not licensed to grind
flour, most of his time was spent grinding grist feed for animals. Most of his business
came in the fall, but a few farmers came during the rest of the year. The Wrights
acquired two prized animals with the mill. One was a horse which was especially good
natured. No one needed to even touch the reins to get him to town. There was,
however, one place he would not pull the buggy. He had fallen through a bridge once
and he would not cross a bridge unless someone walked across before him. The other
prized animal was a tiger striped mother cat and her litters. They were essential in
keeping down the rodent population around the grain in the mill. One of the tomcats
liked to go fishing with the children. If they were slow to catch a fish to throw to him, the
tomcat would wade out into the stream, hook a fish with his claws and enjoy his feast.
School was only about 1 and 1/2 miles away, but when the snow stood 3-4 feet deep, it
was sometimes difficult to make the trip. Nobody seemed to know anything about skis
or snowshoes in that area at that time. At 5 years of age Marian started to pre-school,
which in those days was called primer class. Children weren't expected to learn to read
in primer class but Marian was. Her father had instilled in her a love for reading from an
early age.
Coal was expensive in southern Michigan, so the Wrights chopped a lot of wood for the
winter. On the land adjacent lo the mill, Mr. Wright raised oats and a little barley and
wheat. Occasionally, he raised buckwheat for cakes. When the crops were ripe, Carlton
would hire a steam powered thrashing machine and its crew. Marian and Ethan were
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fascinated by the steam powered machinery and often would follow the thrashing
machines from field to field to watch the crews at work. They can remember getting up
at 3:00 a.m. one morning to stoke the steam engine for the crew. Always, Carlton had
bees for honey and a good garden for produce. The mill and the garden provided for
the needs of the family. A little extra cash, however is always useful. Ethan had a part
time job which was the envy of other young boys in the areas. One of the neighbor
ladies operated a bird farm. She had 200 kinds of unusual American birds, various
game birds and exotic foreign kinds. The bird lady could not possibly fill all the orders
she received. Ethan received one dollar per day for feeding, watering and cleaning
cages.
Occasional heavy rainy periods had caused floods which threatened the mill, but none
did any real damage until 1917. A hefty flood that year destroyed all the flumes leading
to the mill. Carlton said, "That's enough. We're going to Colorado." Colorado had been
on their minds for sometime. Marian's mother had a cousin living at Tiffany who had
been urging them to move out here. Carlton sold the place, boxed all their possessions
and put the family on the train. Carlton himself went by auto by way of Wyoming to visit
relatives before coming on to meet the family at Tiffany. The Wrights had never seen
real mountains until they reached the plains east of Denver on the train. Marian still
remembers that first day she saw them. "I couldn't keep my eyes off them. I loved the
mountains from that first day I saw them and I still do." The family changed to the
narrow gauge at Alamosa and traveled over Cumbres Pass to Chama and Pagosa
Junction to Tiffany. Marian thought she knew quite a bit about farming, but one practice
at Tiffany baffled her. Coming from the lush, green countryside of Michigan, she had
never seen irrigation before.
Mr. Wright bought Jake McJunkin's farm located just west of the present day slaughter
house including his crop and animals. A year or two later Carlton acquired some ranch
land several miles on west of Ignacio where Marian still lives. If you've visited Marian's
house, you know it sits on a considerable hill. Her dad enjoyed telling visitors that their
house originally was at no higher elevation than the surrounding area. They acquired
an elevated view only because of the gumbo mud the Oxford/Ignacio area is famous
for. Everybody who came to the house on a muddy day and cleaned their shoes,
contributed to the building up of the hill on which their home is now located .
Marian completed her sophomore and junior years here. The end of her junior year was
disturbed by a dispute which seems quite ridiculous today, but which reflects the
attitudes of that time. Marian and her classmates heard that one of their favorite
teachers, Ravenna Groat, was being refused reemployment by the school board.
Marian and Virginia Russell and others In their class met with the board to ask whether
this was so. The board said yes, they had fired Ravenna Groat for riding a horse in
riding britches instead of a riding Skirt. The junior class told the board they would not
return to school if the board persisted in this action. The school board members
doubted the students could afford to attend school in Durango, but most of them got
jobs, saved their money and did manage to enroll in Durango for their senior year.
Actually this was a wise thing for them to do as the Ignacio School was not accredited
at that time.
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�Following graduation Marian attended a two week teacher's institute at Pagosa Springs
and then took a stiff exam to receive a country teacher's certificate. This may seem like
very little training (which ii was), but Marian says it was a stiff exam and many people
had to lake the exam more than once to pass. Marian taught in various schools around
the country. She loved the work, though conditions were often less than ideal. Some of
the buildings were not insulated and had poor heaters. When Cedar Grove school was
closed against Marian's objections, she started a "bootleg school" in her home on the
ranch. "Some of the students were walking 7 miles to Cedar Grove. How could they go
several more miles to another school? Some families would send one child to stay with
me for a week and then they would take that child home and send another one to learn
all they could for a week." The school Marian remembers with most affection was the
school in Thompson Park just this side of Mancos Hill. "The students there were so
intelligent and decent and nice. I really enjoyed the time I taught school over there."
In 1928 the Frank Harmon family asked Marian to go with them to Michigan and to help
take care of the Harmon children on the trip. Marian was very happy to do this since
she had not been able to return to visit relatives of to see her birthplace since she had
moved. On the return trip the Harmons stopped in Hamilton, Kansas, to see some of
their family. There Marian met a young man named Bowen Worford. He spent quite a
little time driving the Harmon kids around to see their relatives in the area and Marian
accompanied them. Before she left, Bowen got Marian's address and wrote to her
during that summer and fall. Bowen had lived in Montana for a while before returning to
Kansas and was eager to return to the mountains. At Christmas time Marian returned to
Kansas and she and Bowen were married. The following April they came out to La
Plata County. Shortly after Bowen and Marian were married, Mrs. Harmon died. After a
while the court asked Marian and Bowen to lake care of the two Harmon girls. The girls
stayed with the Warlords until they were grown.
Marian remembers with a chuckle the time their dog tried to "herd" Bowen's Ford
Coupe. Bowen and Marian took the coupe over to Spring Creek to get a cow they had
bought. Their dog, a shepherd and collie mix went along. One of them was driving the
coupe and the other was out with the dog herding the cow. When the cow made a
sudden turn lo escape, Bowen yelled "get her" to the dog. Somehow 'ale Shep's doggy
brain got its wires crossed, apparently thinking Bowen meant the coupe instead of the
cow. The dog made a ferocious leap and bit the tire of the moving car. Of course, he
got thrown for a loop by the wheel and that was the last time old Shep tried to herd a
coupe.

Bowen died in 1967, but Marian slays on the ranch. It's in a remote area and there are
times it's a little difficult to gel in or out, so many people have urged Marian to move to
town. So far she has refused. She loves her animals and the wildlife and the peace and
quiet of the land. Beyond that the place is full of memories of Bowen and her parents
and of her first years here. For these reasons Marian's ties to the ranch are strong. We
wish her many more years of happiness and peace.
September, 1974 -- Shelby Smith

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Charlotte Gorman was born in Chicago, the daughter of William and Frances Gorman,
both of whom were Canadian immigrants born near Toronto, Ontario. When William
and Frances met in Chicago in 1900, William worked for the Chicago Street Railroad
Co, which operated horse-drawn street cars all over the Chicago metro area. Women
were supposedly unliberated in 1900, but Frances played golf often and well. Both she
and William were interested in the theater. Years later Charlotte says she recalls
hearing them talkins about the Berrymores and the- Drews and other famous acting
families of that period. Most recreation in Chicago during the summer centered around
Lake Michigan.

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the lake. The boat was moored to a pier off the shore several miles from town. The only
access to town was a packet boat which came along once a day. If we wanted to go to
town for shopping or to send mail, we raised a flag on the boat as a signal for the
packet boat to stop. These vacations were a cool relaxing time of swimming, fishing,
sunbathing and rest."
Charlotte's memories of Chicago, such as those above, have been reinforced by her
parents, since she was only about four years old when the Gormans moved to the
Ozarks. Before William retired he began dabbling in the buying and selling of real
estate. He moved the family onto one of his plots near Ironton and Burbank, Missouri,
about 90 miles south of St. Louis. During the year and a half the Gormans were there,
William was the postmaster in Ironton. Then William heard of the Loma Land
Development Co. which was opening farming land in the Colorado River Valley west of
Grand Junction and Fruita. William and many other easterners invested in farmland
there. A Presbyterian Mission was opened at Loma and is still operating, but the farm
projects did not do so well. Neither the Gormans nor the other Easterners had heard of
alkali land. Most of the farms at Loma proved largely unsuitable for irrigated farming.
Therefore, the Gormans moved to Orchard Heights near Fruita. Then began some of
the most enjoyable years of Charlotte's life .
"Orchard Heights was a beautiful place. We could look right up into the Colorado
National Monument from our yard. The orchards, mostly apples, occupied hundreds of
acres. Our place was rented from a New York State man who had planted every kind of
apple we knew about and many varieties we never knew the names of."
Charlotte and her brother, Douglas traveled to school at Fruita 3 miles away in a horsedrawn school bus. The bus consisted of a wagon with seats along the sides and
benches for the little ones down the middle. It was roofed and had black oil-cloth
curtains which could be closed during bad weather.

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"All the young ones in our area played 'hide and go seek' and went swimming during
the warm months. During winter we had community parties or went ice skating on the
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�Fall was a lime of work, a time of apple picking and potato digging and of constructing
apple boxes. The growers built their own apple boxes from pre-cut sticks and boards.
Charlotte remembers doing her share of nailing. Then the apples were packed, hauled
to the Railroad Depot and shipped. Farm children have opportunities for varieties of
pets largely unavailable to city kids. Charlotte remembers one pet lamb which became
a nuisance in the neighborhood.
"He would follow our buggy wherever we went Once he followed us all the way to
Loma where he made himself a nuisance in the flower beds. Almost the whole town
turned out to make sure he followed us when we left."
When Charlotte was about 10 years old, her parents moved lo another place near
Fruita where they attended a country school for grades 4-8. William grew potatoes and
tomatoes as well as apples there. "While we were there a couple of burros came to live
with us. They just showed up. Douglas would try to ride one of them lo school, but he
usually didn't make it About halfway there the burro would tum around and head for
home and Doug would have to walk all the way to school anyway."
Charlotte loved to read and did a lot of writing, too. At the age of 9 she announced that
she intended to be a newspaper reporter, "I donl know why I said that, but it must have
been a premonition of things lo come."
In high school Charlotte especially enjoyed English, dramatics and journalism. She was
the editor of the first Fruita High School newspaper. In college Charlotte majored in
journalism and would have accepted a job on the Grand Junction newspaper, but the
wages were too low. Instead she taught school in Fruita for 4 years.
"I first came to the San Juan Basin to visit a college friend who lived in Cortez. I stayed
in Durango a while at the Sterling Hotel which was operated by Lawrence Wiseman's
mother. Mrs. Wiseman and I became good friends and she took me with her on a visit to
Ignacio to see Lawrence and Margaret. It was on this visit that I met my future husband.
Fay Jones worked at the sugar beet mill in Brighton during the fall and early winter.
During spring and summer he came back lo Ignacio to help his aunt and uncle run the
Commercial Hotel which was located on Goddard Avenue where the recent Bill Liesa
auto repair shop Is located." The hotel has burned down since then, but in its day
Charlotte says it was a very nice place and an interesting place to slay. "All kinds of
travelers, including Washington officials here on Tribal business stayed there. The
parlor was a place of lively conversation and fun in the evenings. The restaurant served
delicious food. A complete Sunday dinner cost forty cents." Inflation operated then too.
Charlotte says Louis Morris recalls what a blow it was when the Sunday dinners
increased for forty cents to fifty cents per meal.
"I stayed there in the hotel several days. They were so short handed that I was offered
a job and took it It was there I got acquainted with Fay. We were married in November
of 1933. Fay worked in the mill in Brighton till Christmas time. Then we came back to
Ignacio."

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Steady jobs were almost impossible to find during those depression years, when Fay
and Charlotte got a chance to buy the Ignacio Chiefton, they took it. At that time the
Chiefton was located in one half of the building now occupied by Rudy's Lounge. The
other half of the building was Mr. Stauffer's Barber Shop (Jesse Hott's father). Charlotte
was the editor and reporter and Fay was the publisher and advertising manager. It
wasn't easy to keep a newspaper alive during the 30's. Many subscriptions were paid in
produce rather than with cash. One man paid his with strawberries for years.

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lives in Denver and Kathleen Rosenberg lives in Oakland, New Jersey.

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Faye died in 1968. Since then Charlotte has spent quite a bit of time traveling. She has
been to Canada twice to visit relatives and, also, on a bus tour of Mexico. No one is
surprised that Charlotte can't quit writing. She has written a number of short stories andis currently working on a history of the Presbyterian Church in this area. Every month
Mrs. Jones voluntarily supplies most of the news for this newsletter. A healthy interest in
life is rewardin~ and invigorating. Charlotte certainly has this.
"When I first came to Ignacio, I thought it was a fascinating place with it's variety of
cultures and traditions and its beautiful surroundings. I still do."
July, 1975 -- Shelby Smith

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Frank Padilla was born at La Jara, New Mexico, (near Cuba) in 1903. His parents, Jose
Rafael Padilla and Alcarie (Mestes) Padilla, had three children whenhe was born. They
are Beatrice, Amalia and Cleotilde. The Padilla's moved to Arboles, Colorado when
Frank was one year old. His father worked for the D. &amp; R.G. W. Railroad building track.
His foreman was a Japanese man. The "extra gang", as the Japanese crew was known,
created quite a stir of interest since most of the local people had never seen Orientals
before and had certainly never seen anyone eat so much rice.
Frank says he attended school at Arboles for one year, then went to college at the
sheep camp. Sheepherding was Frank's life work. Many of those years he was
employed by Salvador Rodriquez, an uncle of Fred Rodriquez.
Except for a few trips to Grand Junction and Utah and one memorable trip to Los
Angeles, during which he missed a bus connection and toured all over Pueblo and
Denver, Frank has spent his whole live in the Arboles/lgnacio area.
Frank has never been married. During the interview we teasingly asked him whether he
had ever had any girl friends. He set us in our places by replying the only lady he is
interested in is the Virgin Mary. Frank's devoted religious faith is well known in this
community. If the people of Ignacio were asked to name the person who is the best
neighbor in town, Frank would be one of the winners. For many years Frank has taken
care of the grounds at the Catholic Church. Since moving to one of the senior center
apartments, he has watered and hoed all the fiower beds and swept and cleaned the
walks and the parking lot. Every spring Frank visits both the Catholic and the nonCatholic cemeteries to search for untended graves. He removes the weeds and cleans
every grave which appears to be neglected. In his daily walks between Ignacio and the
Senior Center he picks up and disposes of the litter along both sides of the highway. All
these tasks are performed without thought of payment and apparently without any
resentment that others do not help.
For these reasons we are pleased to honor Frank Padilla as our Senior Citizen of the
month. He is a responsible and dignified resident and has set an admirable example for
the rest of us to be a friend and neighbor to our whole community.
September, 1979 - Liva Pacheco &amp; Shelby Smith

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                    <text>FREDDIE (Rose) NEWTON
(Remembering Thanksgiving, Today and Yesterday)
Thanksgiving is a favorite holiday that I have always liked so much because my family
would get together and enjoy all of the good food we would cook. They joined me with
their home made goodies and specials which each family brought. One daughter-in-law
always made the fruit salad loaded with fruit, nuts and whipped cream. One daughter
made a cheese ball, another baked pies and one was talented in her relish dish. Once
a son baked the turkey and dressing and one tried his hand at seasoning a pumpkin pie
though he over did it with the cloves. We started out with small crowds, but soon grew
in numbers. Once twenty-eight people sat down to eat Thanksgiving with me, my
children, my grandchildren and a son's college friend. This year I will go to eat with my
daughter's family, grandchildren and great grandchildren.
I remember as a child in 1923 in Oklahoma my mother cooked a big turkey and all the
things to go with ii. Everything was made from scratch. We raised almost all of our
food as we lived on a farm near Ada, Oklahoma. We had many close kin and
neighbors and there were quite a number of Choctaw Indians nearby. My mother
always shared our garden with our Indian neighbors and that year she cooked extra
food for them. My older brother delivered ii by horseback about a half mile from our
home. She sent half of the turkey and other food. The main vegetable was always her
turnips as no one ever cooked like my mom. Later, moving to New Mexico in 1925 we
shared again with neighbors as we had moved to an isolated ranch near Malaga, New
Mexico, called the "Harroun Ranch". The ranch was worked mostly with Mexican hired
help and my dad was the straw boss. When the depression hit no one had any money,
but mom was always ahead with her canning, big fryers and roasting chickens, eggs,
butter and such. So that Thanksgiving she told my dad, "We have to get more meat for
all these hungry people". The ranch hands had a diet of beans, chili, tortillas and on
occasion goat or rabbit meat. One morning in 1928 my brother was trapping and
caught two big coons that he skinned and kept the pelts for sale. We also had some
goats, so together with barbecued goats, roasted coons and baked chicken my mother
and brother cooked a Thanksgiving dinner never to be forgotten. We and our Mexican
friends shared it all.

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